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	<title>Comments on: Firefox 3.1 gets tab tearing</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Baker</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-74985</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disable tearoff tabs plugin:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/12276

This really should be in the preferences to turn it off.  Even with the latest build, going from another app to Firefox using my Wacom tablet _always_ tears off the tab.  I&#039;ve been a strong supporter of Firefox but this &quot;feature&quot; nearly made me go to another browser.  Fortunately this plug-in saved the day.</description>
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<p><a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/12276" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/12276</a></p>
<p>This really should be in the preferences to turn it off.  Even with the latest build, going from another app to Firefox using my Wacom tablet _always_ tears off the tab.  I&#8217;ve been a strong supporter of Firefox but this &#8220;feature&#8221; nearly made me go to another browser.  Fortunately this plug-in saved the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aargh! While it&#039;s an old post, this is a &quot;today&quot; issue for me. I found this post after upgrading to FF 3.5 from 3.0.10 and noticing that now &quot;drag to desktop&quot; is &quot;drag to window.&quot; I use D2D all the time (actually D2folder) and always hated the fact that IE required one to find a context menu (sometimes inadvertently disabled by lazy programmers) in order to create a shortcut on the desktop. 

I&#039;ve been scanning the comment stream to try to figure out how to either put this back or find a workaround, and it took this 25-year IT guy a bit too long to effectively &quot;guess&quot; how to do it...that &quot;location&quot; icon next to the address bar (referred to above, it&#039;s helpful to think it&#039;s actually *part* of the location bar)..is on the left of the address, for those of you who have never thought anything of it, as I was wont to do.

For what it&#039;s worth, developers (and I&#039;m one, too) it can be helpful when changing subtle features to detect a person&#039;s first use of the changed feature and then overlay the interface with &quot;here&#039;s what&#039;s up, and oh--and here&#039;s a checkbox to turn off these helpful hints.&quot; A company that does this quite well is Cooliris...anytime there&#039;s an update, the first time you launch Cooliris, large, colorful block arrows show you what&#039;s changed. It&#039;s boorish if there are a lot of successive updates, but I&#039;d rather turn them off than struggle to find them. While it might be obtuse to do this in Firefox, the first time I use something that&#039;s silently changed (should ALL of my users read your change logs too?) and I get a little helpful fade-in tip...that would be fantastically nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aargh! While it&#8217;s an old post, this is a &#8220;today&#8221; issue for me. I found this post after upgrading to FF 3.5 from 3.0.10 and noticing that now &#8220;drag to desktop&#8221; is &#8220;drag to window.&#8221; I use D2D all the time (actually D2folder) and always hated the fact that IE required one to find a context menu (sometimes inadvertently disabled by lazy programmers) in order to create a shortcut on the desktop. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been scanning the comment stream to try to figure out how to either put this back or find a workaround, and it took this 25-year IT guy a bit too long to effectively &#8220;guess&#8221; how to do it&#8230;that &#8220;location&#8221; icon next to the address bar (referred to above, it&#8217;s helpful to think it&#8217;s actually *part* of the location bar)..is on the left of the address, for those of you who have never thought anything of it, as I was wont to do.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, developers (and I&#8217;m one, too) it can be helpful when changing subtle features to detect a person&#8217;s first use of the changed feature and then overlay the interface with &#8220;here&#8217;s what&#8217;s up, and oh&#8211;and here&#8217;s a checkbox to turn off these helpful hints.&#8221; A company that does this quite well is Cooliris&#8230;anytime there&#8217;s an update, the first time you launch Cooliris, large, colorful block arrows show you what&#8217;s changed. It&#8217;s boorish if there are a lot of successive updates, but I&#8217;d rather turn them off than struggle to find them. While it might be obtuse to do this in Firefox, the first time I use something that&#8217;s silently changed (should ALL of my users read your change logs too?) and I get a little helpful fade-in tip&#8230;that would be fantastically nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-69566</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I googled to see if I could disable this and it took me to this page. I couldn&#039;t find anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I googled to see if I could disable this and it took me to this page. I couldn&#8217;t find anything.</p>
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		<title>By: sw developer</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-69181</link>
		<dc:creator>sw developer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice idea but absolutely untested by developers and with no option to disable it -- I just hope that this is not caused by bad application/architecture design...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice idea but absolutely untested by developers and with no option to disable it &#8212; I just hope that this is not caused by bad application/architecture design&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-68956</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to take a wild guess here and say your thinking of Chrome. I think you will find that the majority of the Mac browser market is Safari :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to take a wild guess here and say your thinking of Chrome. I think you will find that the majority of the Mac browser market is Safari :P</p>
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		<title>By: jt</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-68950</link>
		<dc:creator>jt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares? Safari isn&#039;t available for Mac or Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares? Safari isn&#8217;t available for Mac or Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Sorin</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-68689</link>
		<dc:creator>Sorin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve added my vote to these two bugs and added them to my own bugs-wishlist on http://nusunt.eu/software/bugs-to-vote-for/

It&#039;s clearly a feature transformed in a bug :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve added my vote to these two bugs and added them to my own bugs-wishlist on <a href="http://nusunt.eu/software/bugs-to-vote-for/" rel="nofollow">http://nusunt.eu/software/bugs-to-vote-for/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s clearly a feature transformed in a bug :|</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-68247</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that&#039;s why I helped triage this bug:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465184

And reopened it when the developer working on tab tearing had closed it as fixed. Actually get involved in the testing community if you want to refine features, bugzilla, newsgroups, irc, forums etc.. If your just beta testing to see what&#039;s new then go back to the stable release if a bug is driving you nuts.

To start off with you could vote for that bug and bug:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465346

Those please no &quot;me too&quot; comments, they already spam mine and many other e-mails boxes enough :/. If you should think there should be an actual disable option then write a bug :)  (though do a search beforehand).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that&#8217;s why I helped triage this bug:</p>
<p><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465184" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465184</a></p>
<p>And reopened it when the developer working on tab tearing had closed it as fixed. Actually get involved in the testing community if you want to refine features, bugzilla, newsgroups, irc, forums etc.. If your just beta testing to see what&#8217;s new then go back to the stable release if a bug is driving you nuts.</p>
<p>To start off with you could vote for that bug and bug:</p>
<p><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465346" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465346</a></p>
<p>Those please no &#8220;me too&#8221; comments, they already spam mine and many other e-mails boxes enough :/. If you should think there should be an actual disable option then write a bug :)  (though do a search beforehand).</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-68239</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the idea of beta testing to get us to test features and refine them. Would you rather have this feature go out live, as is, and drive people away from FF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the idea of beta testing to get us to test features and refine them. Would you rather have this feature go out live, as is, and drive people away from FF?</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-68164</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Easy, stop BETA testing.</description>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-68160</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please!  I need a disable feature before I go MAD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please!  I need a disable feature before I go MAD!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-68075</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This &quot;feature&quot; is driving me crazy. A disable option would be greatly appreciated. Or at least reduce the sensitivity. It opens new windows when all I wanted to do is select the tab, if my mouse slipped a pixel or two while clicking on it. It&#039;s happened like 10 times in 3 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;feature&#8221; is driving me crazy. A disable option would be greatly appreciated. Or at least reduce the sensitivity. It opens new windows when all I wanted to do is select the tab, if my mouse slipped a pixel or two while clicking on it. It&#8217;s happened like 10 times in 3 days.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwight Stegall</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-68070</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwight Stegall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An ideal browser to me would be one that allows you to open several tabs at once and have all of them visible at the same time. I mean you could resize each tab so that they all would be visible like you can with your Windows Desktop.

This type of setup would useful when you have content in a tab that is constantly updated by the server and other tabs for surfing and searching etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An ideal browser to me would be one that allows you to open several tabs at once and have all of them visible at the same time. I mean you could resize each tab so that they all would be visible like you can with your Windows Desktop.</p>
<p>This type of setup would useful when you have content in a tab that is constantly updated by the server and other tabs for surfing and searching etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-67925</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an integrated part of the Firefox code without a toggle built in. Your sort of like asking &quot;I don&#039;t need bookmarks, how do I disable them?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an integrated part of the Firefox code without a toggle built in. Your sort of like asking &#8220;I don&#8217;t need bookmarks, how do I disable them?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: eXtreme</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-67915</link>
		<dc:creator>eXtreme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont need this feature, how can I disable it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont need this feature, how can I disable it?</p>
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		<title>By: Give me FREEDOM or give me TABS &#124; Go Complain on the Internet</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-67910</link>
		<dc:creator>Give me FREEDOM or give me TABS &#124; Go Complain on the Internet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Firefox 3.1 gets tab tearing - Mozilla Links [...]</description>
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		<title>By: El Guru</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-67908</link>
		<dc:creator>El Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, it is way too sensitive and I need to find a way to disable this IMO useless feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, it is way too sensitive and I need to find a way to disable this IMO useless feature.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-67905</link>
		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465184
and
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465346</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See:</p>
<p><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465184" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465184</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465346" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=465346</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pepsi</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-67892</link>
		<dc:creator>Pepsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really feel confused about this new feature. It is really annoying when I just want to switch between tabs but if just a little &quot;drag&quot;, a new window pops up, that is not what I want. So I would like to have an option to choose to enable or disable this feature in the Tools-&gt;Options-&gt;tabs.
Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really feel confused about this new feature. It is really annoying when I just want to switch between tabs but if just a little &#8220;drag&#8221;, a new window pops up, that is not what I want. So I would like to have an option to choose to enable or disable this feature in the Tools-&gt;Options-&gt;tabs.<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great feature and will prove really useful.  Firefox is getting better all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great feature and will prove really useful.  Firefox is getting better all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Firefox 3.1 gets tabs tearing &#171; Decoding the Web</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-67801</link>
		<dc:creator>Firefox 3.1 gets tabs tearing &#171; Decoding the Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 08:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Source [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nox</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-67796</link>
		<dc:creator>Nox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, right. I always forget about the alt+mouse button shortcuts for some reason -_-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, right. I always forget about the alt+mouse button shortcuts for some reason -_-</p>
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		<title>By: Rioting_pacifist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rioting_pacifist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not under linux, alt+drag will move the window about.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something I really like about Google Chrome is that when you close a tab, it also closes the in-page search box.  Same with clicking on a link.  Is there an extension that adds this to Firefox, and/or is it planned for Firefox anytime?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I really like about Google Chrome is that when you close a tab, it also closes the in-page search box.  Same with clicking on a link.  Is there an extension that adds this to Firefox, and/or is it planned for Firefox anytime?</p>
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		<title>By: Firefox 3.1 beta 2, con pestaÃ±as drag and drop &#124; Incubaweb</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/11/firefox-31-gets-tab-tearing/comment-page-1/#comment-67759</link>
		<dc:creator>Firefox 3.1 beta 2, con pestaÃ±as drag and drop &#124; Incubaweb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mozilla ha aÃ±adido caracterÃ­sticas significantes en su versiÃ³n de&#160;firefox 3.1 beta 2, permitiendo que las pestaÃ±as cambien de una ventana a otra&#160;de firefox y tambiÃ©n si solamente tienes una ventana, pues soltar una pestaÃ±a fuera de la ventana y se crea otra nueva. [...]</description>
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