Comments on: Firefox 3 Release Candidate 1 is here

By: Bazza

Bazza — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:56:07 +0000

Having the whole Help system online is pretty demented. If your browser is having problems, there’s a very high likelihood your system is also having trouble accessing the net. Anyhone spot the problem with this scenario yet?

What about systems who have no net connection? There are still many systems that run offline more often than not, frequently this is for reasons of security, which is a feature Firefox touts. Mmmmm, delicious irony. Not forgetting all those who simply have no net connection available at all.

While we’re at it, how about that huge majority of worlwide computer users who have little or no broadband access available? Have you tried to use a computer lately on dialup? If you had you’d laugh heartily at anyone suggesting an online help system over an inbuilt one.

Have the inbuilt help augmented by an online help system that can be kept updated by all means, but never make the online method the primary.

By: Andi’s GreenLabs. :: Is it the RC 1?

Andi’s GreenLabs. :: Is it the RC 1? — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:39:38 +0000

[...] But, something’s strange for me. One day, I just wanted to update some packages manually from YaST Software Management when the network on my university was possible enough to get them without having trouble –This place has limited access to download materials from Internet , so maybe you’ll find some outdated posts in this blog. When I went to Filter section, and chose Repositories, then hint Firefox 3 Beta Repositoy, I found Firefox 3 Beta has changed its version, it’s said “Available Version: 3.0-3.2 (newer)“, and the list was identified with blue color.. Wooow!! It’s stable version!.. No time to wait, I got it updated and taraaaaa..!! I have the stable version of Firefox 3!.. But wait! When I read this news, it’s said that Firefox 3 RC 1 had been released.. [...]

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Can You Be Sued For Not Upgrading Your Browsers? « UK Web Focus — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:01:57 +0000

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By: tom

tom — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:58:10 +0000

why not just use epiphany if you crave simplicity?

By: Karl

Karl — Mon, 19 May 2008 13:14:11 +0000

You probably should suggest those things to the developers. Or at least post about it here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/index.php

By: Karl

Karl — Mon, 19 May 2008 13:08:57 +0000

Anon. Wow.
You must be the least educated computer user ever. What a totally misguided view.
Anyway. I will no try to explain to you why you should update to FF2 and then FF3 except that FF1.5 is just stuffed with security holes that you are gladly enjoying. HAPPY SURFING! :)

Btw. You sound so angry why why don’t you just switch back to IE.

By: Emil Ivanov

Emil Ivanov — Mon, 19 May 2008 09:58:10 +0000

Well I am waiting for the final release, but I hate this urlclassifier3.sqlite, its 35MB!!! If I remember correct that is the reason why the hdd have so excessive usage sometimes. If this stay that way I will disable it.
There are some strange inconsistencies like you can write tags from the star button, but you can’t from bookmark properties (bookmarks menu and sidebar). You can’t assign keyword for new bookmark from the star button, but you can from bookmark properties (bookmarks menu and sidebar). In the Library is all fine but guess I wont go there every time for the smallest thing.
BTW if you want to sort all the bookmarks in the bookmarks menu right click on Organize Bookmarks and select sort by name, no idea if they will fix this for final… right click on one bookmark should order the whole menu, the other option is to sort them from the library.
I hope the next release after fx3 will get a lot of css improvements, looks like text-shadow will be the first ;)

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Weekly Links | GrantPalin.com — Mon, 19 May 2008 04:51:23 +0000

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By: Fitch

Fitch — Sun, 18 May 2008 15:10:12 +0000

I’m disappointed that we didn’t see the new logo released either. http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/12/firefox-logo-getting-an-update/
Maybe the artist is SO GOOD that we don’t see the difference– maybe the small icons are sharper or something, and we just don’t have the originals to compare it too? ;)

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Transnets » Blog Archive » Firefox 3 est arrivé — Sun, 18 May 2008 09:54:02 +0000

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By: dude.gr » Firefox 3 Release Candidate 1

dude.gr » Firefox 3 Release Candidate 1 — Sun, 18 May 2008 07:53:12 +0000

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By: Webhost Tutorials

Webhost Tutorials — Sun, 18 May 2008 07:48:00 +0000

I encountered a host of problems in Firefox 3 Beta 5. I can’t access my GoDaddy account because it crashes. I can’t access cPanel in Lunarpages webhost because it asks certificates. I can’t access Google because Firefox asks for Google certificate.

By: SilverWave

SilverWave — Sun, 18 May 2008 07:47:41 +0000

Re anon “So the changes are …”

Well FF is foss so if you don’t like the direction FF is taking you can take the FF1.5 code and fork it, you know if its sooo easy to do and the developers are wrong and you are right :P

Personally I find that FF2+MyExtensions makes it a great browser.
FF3B5 was a bit of a shock but once you get your old extensions working (Mr Tech Toolkit) turn off FullZoom and just use TextZoom its damn good for a beta.

Like most things in life “things change” and you can join the whiners or evaluate the change in a rational way… give it a fair hearing.

The changes with FF3 are mainly the rendering engine and memory, all good AFAICS.
The other big change is Places - bookmarking on FF was so poor that I used it mainly for LiveBookMarksRSS and used slogger instead.

I will still use slogger but I have retrained myself to use the new addressbar functionality (the AwesomeBar) because, despite a stupid name, it does make a huge difference to the way you browse.

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Firefox 3 RC1 chegou | Open Mania — Sat, 17 May 2008 18:39:30 +0000

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By: EP

EP — Sat, 17 May 2008 17:50:30 +0000

““I noticed the installer has a checkbox to set Firefox as the default browser checked by default. This feels a bit too pushy for user trying it put for the first time.v. The correct way would be to ship it disabled””

This is a “release candidate”. If there are no problems, this WILL be FF 3 w/o any further changes. So it is supposed to be in its final form now including any/all default settings such as the one you mentioned.

By: Percy Cabello

Percy Cabello — Sat, 17 May 2008 16:12:05 +0000

Duh! I’ll shut up now!

By: anonymousey

anonymousey — Sat, 17 May 2008 15:59:32 +0000

I take “penultimate release” to mean that the next release will be the final one.

By: anonymousey

anonymousey — Sat, 17 May 2008 15:51:56 +0000

Help will still be there, it will just be online. (There’s only a dummy page at the moment.) It makes sense, otherwise they would have to push a release every time a help file is improved. I think it will help to keep it more up to date. There should be an option to have a local mirror though, to browse help while offline.

By: Percy Cabello

Percy Cabello — Sat, 17 May 2008 15:19:08 +0000

Asa’s today post (http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2008/05/firefox_3_relea.html) suggests there will be at least another RC, which seems to be too early to say at this point. Unless of course there is a known missing something, like an updated logo.

Still it would be certainly unusual for Mozilla to deliberately release and RC they know could not become final.

By: Percy Cabello

Percy Cabello — Sat, 17 May 2008 15:14:50 +0000

So your point is you recommend Firerfox 1.5 to everyone despite it’s totally out of support and probably uses more memory and is slower than FF3? And it took you four paragraphs, and a few color words to say that? Or were you just ranting?

By: Vexorian

Vexorian — Sat, 17 May 2008 15:11:58 +0000

* places a [RC1 sign] reminding people this is not retail firefox 3 yet*

anon: Did you try proof reading your trollish post before submitting it? In essence you are first complaining because it doesn’t have any feature besides shininess and then you are complaining BECAUSE it got new features, yet you call them bloat. It doesn’t really make more sense to do it, “I think heaven sucks because it is blue and because it is not blue”

FF3 is the fastest browser on earth and it is FOSS, dunno what else to ask.

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Firefox 3.0 Release Candidate 1 Download « OSS Blog — Sat, 17 May 2008 14:44:46 +0000

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By: Mirek2

Mirek2 — Sat, 17 May 2008 14:39:35 +0000

Exactly. I also don’t like the lack of help documentation…

By: anon

anon — Sat, 17 May 2008 14:36:57 +0000

So the changes are more shiny, reduced documentation and patronising that features probably involving sending your browsing habits to third parties.

Adding shinyness is just bloat, and for those with a clue that is not a rason to upgrade. FF is in its place in the market because those with the ability to discern good software from bad had been recommending it. The Mozilla Suite never had the success of FF because of the bloat, so FF came along and got successful. You are just adding cruft that impresses the kind of people who think shinyness = user friendliness.

Removing the help is just a fuck you to the user. I know that the thought is that “no one ever RTFM anyway”, but actually you don’t know. You have no way of knowing how many questions from clueless n00bs have been answered by the help files. Well, enjoy the increased support load.

I am still using FF 1.5 on Windows because there was nothing added to 2 that made any real world difference, and I am not going to upgrade to 2. There were many pointless and annoying changes made between 1.5 and 2 (close buttons, pointless drop down tab menu, green go button (IE already exists, why did you people try to clone it?)), etc.. I recently installed Ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop’s other partition and witnessed FF3…. its fucking awful. It just seems to have more feaures to get in the way, just more bloat. It lasted about 3 minutes before I removed the package and put FF2 back (like Gutsy and earlier had - with some fighting, it can be made to behave like FF1.5).

We are now 3 FF’s in, and still opening a bunch of tabs at once is a fucking ordeal. And if you open a tab in the background that has a hard time rendering, the whole browser locks up whilst the background (i.e. not being used by the user) tab thinks about it.

By: costinel

costinel — Sat, 17 May 2008 14:32:59 +0000

you said “I noticed the installer has a checkbox to set Firefox as the default browser checked by default. This feels a bit too pushy for user trying it put for the first time.v. The correct way would be to ship it disabled”
it’s better this way, let’s finally ged rid of viruses, spyware, adware, worms and so on brought by internet explorer to innocent users !