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	<title>Comments on: Thunderbird 3 plans include calendaring and more</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FI</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/01/thunderbird-3-plans-include-calendaring-and-more/#comment-65067</link>
		<dc:creator>FI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Thunderbird supports strong basic functions such as full support for DSN receipts. (Ex: not only read confirmation but also relay confirmation for sended emails. And stays as a core products with strong search and attchment organization, what a mail user frequently needs.
IMHO Calendar can be  a tightiy integrateable addon.

Best Regards.
FI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Thunderbird supports strong basic functions such as full support for DSN receipts. (Ex: not only read confirmation but also relay confirmation for sended emails. And stays as a core products with strong search and attchment organization, what a mail user frequently needs.<br />
IMHO Calendar can be  a tightiy integrateable addon.</p>
<p>Best Regards.<br />
FI</p>
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		<title>By: Shredder: in-development Thunderbird - Mozilla Links</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/01/thunderbird-3-plans-include-calendaring-and-more/#comment-61781</link>
		<dc:creator>Shredder: in-development Thunderbird - Mozilla Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thunderbird 3 is expected to include some interesting features including integration with Lightning, the calendar extension; a visual refresh; STEELE, an API for more powerful extensions, and extensive code cleanup. The first alpha should be out in the next few weeks with a second one to follow on July.   This entry was posted on Tuesday, May 13th, 2008 at 11:22 pm and is filed under Mozilla Messaging, News, Thunderbird, Thunderbird 3. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.       You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Thunderbird 3 is expected to include some interesting features including integration with Lightning, the calendar extension; a visual refresh; STEELE, an API for more powerful extensions, and extensive code cleanup. The first alpha should be out in the next few weeks with a second one to follow on July.   This entry was posted on Tuesday, May 13th, 2008 at 11:22 pm and is filed under Mozilla Messaging, News, Thunderbird, Thunderbird 3. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.       You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Mellis</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/01/thunderbird-3-plans-include-calendaring-and-more/#comment-58336</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Mellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope T-Bird goes all out to compete with Micro-sloth's Outlook</description>
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		<title>By: Ron Killmer</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/01/thunderbird-3-plans-include-calendaring-and-more/#comment-57620</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Killmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 08:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While this blog cites David Ascher's comments in mozilla.dev.planning the meat of discussion was taking place in mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird to which all followup was directed.

For the calendaring goal, the plan is to enhance the Tbird side of the equation to ease integration of Lightning for a more robust extension targeted at personal and small business users.  An element of this is some rework of the Tbird address book that Lightning can play off of. And for clarity, Lightning is and will continue to be a users option Add-on.

The goal of migrating away from the Mork database technology is most likely to show up in the address book first.  A Key issue with all potential Off-The-shelf Open-Source technology will be licensing compatible with Mozilla Foundation policy.

One shift of focus for the Mail side of Tbird will be IMAP mail which can offer users features that POP3 servers can not support. The Tbird 3 alpha testers will get a surprise from what is happening with the Newsreader.  Some long delayed work on filtering landed on the trunk with more patches in the pipeline.

The current RSS feed handling was a hot topic in the discussions and the brainstorming is fueling some new design concepts to ease setup and use of feeds.  Other concepts included the protocols API to ease Add-on Developers task of extending features for users looking for things like Jabber and Addressbook syncing with cell phones. Actually Jabber is available now as a Tb 2 add-on that uses screen space some will not like sacrificing.  The Tbird 3 Tabs interface is the sort of solution some work in the core code can facilitate integration of future extension needs.

As a member of the Thunderbird Community I am glad to see the project getting some news coverage. I hope some of my commentary satisfactorily addresses the other comments appended to this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this blog cites David Ascher&#8217;s comments in mozilla.dev.planning the meat of discussion was taking place in mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird to which all followup was directed.</p>
<p>For the calendaring goal, the plan is to enhance the Tbird side of the equation to ease integration of Lightning for a more robust extension targeted at personal and small business users.  An element of this is some rework of the Tbird address book that Lightning can play off of. And for clarity, Lightning is and will continue to be a users option Add-on.</p>
<p>The goal of migrating away from the Mork database technology is most likely to show up in the address book first.  A Key issue with all potential Off-The-shelf Open-Source technology will be licensing compatible with Mozilla Foundation policy.</p>
<p>One shift of focus for the Mail side of Tbird will be IMAP mail which can offer users features that POP3 servers can not support. The Tbird 3 alpha testers will get a surprise from what is happening with the Newsreader.  Some long delayed work on filtering landed on the trunk with more patches in the pipeline.</p>
<p>The current RSS feed handling was a hot topic in the discussions and the brainstorming is fueling some new design concepts to ease setup and use of feeds.  Other concepts included the protocols API to ease Add-on Developers task of extending features for users looking for things like Jabber and Addressbook syncing with cell phones. Actually Jabber is available now as a Tb 2 add-on that uses screen space some will not like sacrificing.  The Tbird 3 Tabs interface is the sort of solution some work in the core code can facilitate integration of future extension needs.</p>
<p>As a member of the Thunderbird Community I am glad to see the project getting some news coverage. I hope some of my commentary satisfactorily addresses the other comments appended to this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: David Russell</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/01/thunderbird-3-plans-include-calendaring-and-more/#comment-57456</link>
		<dc:creator>David Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOo are currently developing their own PIM so I don't think bundling OOo and Thunderbird would appeal to them.</description>
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		<title>By: Pelle</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/01/thunderbird-3-plans-include-calendaring-and-more/#comment-57455</link>
		<dc:creator>Pelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could it perhaps be a better idea to integrate the mail into Sunbird/Lightning instead of integrating the calendar into Thunderbird?

If Mozilla did that it would en up with three strong products - rather than two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it perhaps be a better idea to integrate the mail into Sunbird/Lightning instead of integrating the calendar into Thunderbird?</p>
<p>If Mozilla did that it would en up with three strong products - rather than two.</p>
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		<title>By: Reddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Thunderbird can be kept as pure email client (like Outlook Express), and you can launch another product by combining Thunderbird with calendar, and IM too.  Those who need only mail client will use Thunderbird, others can use the other product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Thunderbird can be kept as pure email client (like Outlook Express), and you can launch another product by combining Thunderbird with calendar, and IM too.  Those who need only mail client will use Thunderbird, others can use the other product.</p>
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		<title>By: danne</title>
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		<dc:creator>danne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't see the point in integrating the calendar in Thunderbird, there is already the Lightening addon and the suite version in Spicebird. Keep the core Thunderbird clean and let other projects integrate calendaring, chat and other things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see the point in integrating the calendar in Thunderbird, there is already the Lightening addon and the suite version in Spicebird. Keep the core Thunderbird clean and let other projects integrate calendaring, chat and other things.</p>
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		<title>By: Georg Fritscher</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/01/thunderbird-3-plans-include-calendaring-and-more/#comment-57432</link>
		<dc:creator>Georg Fritscher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As per my opinion it's a great idea to equip T-Bird with a PIM system (what about a PIM system as an extension? Oops ... T-Bird Add-on)) as well as to start collaborating with OOo (also as per an T-Bird Add-on), which will move Mozilla to the immediate competitor of MS-Office Suite, but still keep T-Bird as a Stand-Alone version for customers, who do not need PIMs or Office suites.
Many of my customers resisted to convert to Mozilla and OOo due to the lack of a real suite like MS-Office's comfort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As per my opinion it&#8217;s a great idea to equip T-Bird with a PIM system (what about a PIM system as an extension? Oops &#8230; T-Bird Add-on)) as well as to start collaborating with OOo (also as per an T-Bird Add-on), which will move Mozilla to the immediate competitor of MS-Office Suite, but still keep T-Bird as a Stand-Alone version for customers, who do not need PIMs or Office suites.<br />
Many of my customers resisted to convert to Mozilla and OOo due to the lack of a real suite like MS-Office&#8217;s comfort.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Dusablon &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thunderbird Avec Calendar!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Dusablon &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Thunderbird Avec Calendar!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s about time: Thunderbird 3 plans include calendaring and more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Thunderbird 3 Plans for 2008 &#171; Firefox Extension Guru&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thunderbird 3 Plans for 2008 &#171; Firefox Extension Guru&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] News Source: Mozilla Links [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Roadmap to Thunderbird 3.0 &#171; OSS Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Roadmap to Thunderbird 3.0 &#171; OSS Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thunderbird 3 plans include calendaring and more : Mozilla Links [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pelle</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/01/thunderbird-3-plans-include-calendaring-and-more/#comment-57366</link>
		<dc:creator>Pelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I'm currently using Lightning with Thunderbird I don't think that Thunderbird should force everybody to have a calendar in their email-client.

None of my friends have their calendars on their computers - most have them in their pockets or in their memories and forcing a calendar upon their email-clients would just be to bloat them and scare them away to webclients like Gmail.

I'm glad that Thunderbird will be updated! I hope they will make it easier to categorize messages as well as minimizing the amounts of windows needed to read messages - tabs in other words - it's part of what brought Firefox it's success...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I&#8217;m currently using Lightning with Thunderbird I don&#8217;t think that Thunderbird should force everybody to have a calendar in their email-client.</p>
<p>None of my friends have their calendars on their computers - most have them in their pockets or in their memories and forcing a calendar upon their email-clients would just be to bloat them and scare them away to webclients like Gmail.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that Thunderbird will be updated! I hope they will make it easier to categorize messages as well as minimizing the amounts of windows needed to read messages - tabs in other words - it&#8217;s part of what brought Firefox it&#8217;s success&#8230;</p>
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