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	<title>Comments on: Firefox 3 gets a toolbar resizer and native Vista menus</title>
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		<title>By: Stephan Sokolow</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/08/firefox-3-gets-a-toolbar-resizer-and-native-vista-menus/comment-page-1/#comment-63864</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Sokolow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how mine is set up: http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=temp45ka1.png

The globe icon is the menubar as a single menu (Compact Menu 2), I used a userChrome.css hack to merge the Stop and Reload buttons Safari-style, and everything else is either in the context menu or the bookmarks toolbar. (Toggled by the star-and-boxes button)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how mine is set up: <a href="http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=temp45ka1.png" rel="nofollow">http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=temp45ka1.png</a></p>
<p>The globe icon is the menubar as a single menu (Compact Menu 2), I used a userChrome.css hack to merge the Stop and Reload buttons Safari-style, and everything else is either in the context menu or the bookmarks toolbar. (Toggled by the star-and-boxes button)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/08/firefox-3-gets-a-toolbar-resizer-and-native-vista-menus/comment-page-1/#comment-60513</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Removing the menu is a bad idea. It is, for older users of IE, the biggest complaint I hear because they can&#039;t find anything. I don&#039;t have a problem with it being optional, I just do not want it MIA in a future release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Removing the menu is a bad idea. It is, for older users of IE, the biggest complaint I hear because they can&#8217;t find anything. I don&#8217;t have a problem with it being optional, I just do not want it MIA in a future release.</p>
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		<title>By: xplicit</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/08/firefox-3-gets-a-toolbar-resizer-and-native-vista-menus/comment-page-1/#comment-52950</link>
		<dc:creator>xplicit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a kde user i really hope they add the ability to hide the menu bar, menubars are necisarry but  go unused most of the time. (unfortunately theyd have to hide it, as too many new users would hide theyre menus then waste time trying to get it back, so perhaps it is best as an extenuation)

as for the UI upgrade, it looks good but im starting to get scared that OSX/winXP/vista/gnome are all going to get special attention leaving the rest of us stuck with ths same old UI :(

bob: while i agree with you on the extentions. your other two requirements aren&#039;t possible.

why do you want lots of memory free? using up avalible memory (its there for a reason) allows firefox to run smoother and faster than if it decided to ignore your memory.

faster boot times: as i understand it firefox takes agers to boot because it setsup all the extentions and stuff and checks the system before it starts. to boot faster firefox could assume everything(or atleast somethings) are OK and leave parts of the system setup ready for a fasterboot, however this would increase instability and not be worth it for the average user. instead an extention should offer this.

extentions: should remain as extensions and Firefox should come with useful 1st party ones by default IMO, however somebody has choosen to make firefox 1 huge as program and i cant see this changing anytime soon :( 

perhaps there could be a firefox derivative that back-ports important upgrades to the 1.5 branch (i didn&#039;t feel too much feature bloat back then) its alot of work but would produce a faster browser that alot of people would prefer (i think this linux kernels and 2.4 is still maintained to have most of 2.6 (its larger brother)&#039;s featuers)

bram i think they get money for the bookmarks toolbar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a kde user i really hope they add the ability to hide the menu bar, menubars are necisarry but  go unused most of the time. (unfortunately theyd have to hide it, as too many new users would hide theyre menus then waste time trying to get it back, so perhaps it is best as an extenuation)</p>
<p>as for the UI upgrade, it looks good but im starting to get scared that OSX/winXP/vista/gnome are all going to get special attention leaving the rest of us stuck with ths same old UI :(</p>
<p>bob: while i agree with you on the extentions. your other two requirements aren&#8217;t possible.</p>
<p>why do you want lots of memory free? using up avalible memory (its there for a reason) allows firefox to run smoother and faster than if it decided to ignore your memory.</p>
<p>faster boot times: as i understand it firefox takes agers to boot because it setsup all the extentions and stuff and checks the system before it starts. to boot faster firefox could assume everything(or atleast somethings) are OK and leave parts of the system setup ready for a fasterboot, however this would increase instability and not be worth it for the average user. instead an extention should offer this.</p>
<p>extentions: should remain as extensions and Firefox should come with useful 1st party ones by default IMO, however somebody has choosen to make firefox 1 huge as program and i cant see this changing anytime soon :( </p>
<p>perhaps there could be a firefox derivative that back-ports important upgrades to the 1.5 branch (i didn&#8217;t feel too much feature bloat back then) its alot of work but would produce a faster browser that alot of people would prefer (i think this linux kernels and 2.4 is still maintained to have most of 2.6 (its larger brother)&#8217;s featuers)</p>
<p>bram i think they get money for the bookmarks toolbar</p>
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		<title>By: Tecnologia &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; Firefox 3: descubre el nuevo gestor de descargas y otras novedades</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tecnologia &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; Firefox 3: descubre el nuevo gestor de descargas y otras novedades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Firefox 3 with Vista Menus - ZePy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firefox 3 with Vista Menus - ZePy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 02:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have simple requests for a vanilla install of Firefox, which means they will be hard to implement:

- Smaller memory footprint
- Faster start time
- Full standards compliance (for approved standards at least)

Simple, yet hard. I understand they&#039;re even working on these, but until they stop adding popular extensions into the base code these will continue to be an issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have simple requests for a vanilla install of Firefox, which means they will be hard to implement:</p>
<p>- Smaller memory footprint<br />
- Faster start time<br />
- Full standards compliance (for approved standards at least)</p>
<p>Simple, yet hard. I understand they&#8217;re even working on these, but until they stop adding popular extensions into the base code these will continue to be an issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Bram</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/08/firefox-3-gets-a-toolbar-resizer-and-native-vista-menus/comment-page-1/#comment-52831</link>
		<dc:creator>Bram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things I&#039;d like to see is the removal of the Bookmarks Toolbar by default. I often see it wasting screen space, b/c new users don&#039;t tend to use it. Experienced users can easily enable it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I&#8217;d like to see is the removal of the Bookmarks Toolbar by default. I often see it wasting screen space, b/c new users don&#8217;t tend to use it. Experienced users can easily enable it.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2007/08/firefox-3-gets-a-toolbar-resizer-and-native-vista-menus/comment-page-1/#comment-52829</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I sure hope they get enough time to develop places. It must rock! Seems a bit risky leaving the UI until this late in the development cycle...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I sure hope they get enough time to develop places. It must rock! Seems a bit risky leaving the UI until this late in the development cycle&#8230;</p>
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