Planned features for Firefox 3
Published: January 10th, 2007
In today’s Firefox 3 (code name Gran Paradiso) meeting, developers released a preliminary list of requirements for Firefox 3. The new target release date is sometime in the third quarter this year.
Among the list of mandatory requirements, read, what is the most likely to be included in Firefox 3 we have:
- Improved interaction with Add-ons: clearer, more coherent language; less steps to install; more visible way to configure add-ons, probably to be moved back to the general Options window, which I hope deeply; more noticeable alerts when updates are available; a permanent restart Firefox button.
- Support for remote bookmarks, bookmarks and history annotation.
- Files could be handled by web services. If I am reading this correctly, this could mean you would be able to click on an attached document and open it with something like Writely or Google Documents. And perhaps, as I asked Santa, the ability to redirect mailto: links to web email services.
- A much needed print support to prevent cut paragraphs and true WYSIWYG.
- The much requested MSI installer which will be a much welcomed improvement for IT administrators as it will ease deployment and updating of Firefox across a company.
- In the security front: support for Microsoft CardSpace and OpenID (check tomorrow’s article for more coverage on this). Smarter credentials handling.
- Airbag, the Google backed open source crash reporting tool will replace currently licensed TalkBack.
Among the highly desirable requirements:
- A private web browsing mode. I guess this would mean no cache, history, password or entered form information storage.
- Save web pages as PDF files, integrated with history. That would be just awesome.
- Support pause/resume downloads across sessions.
- Make Firefox help accessible only while online. Not sure how good and idea this is.
- Microformats support.
Nice to have:
- Unified bookmarks/history. Does this mean no Places?
- Support for Windows Vista parental controls. I really hope this one goes up in the priority list. This would be the first concrete downer for Firefox when confronted with Internet Explorer 7.
- Tab grouping and expose. This sounds like Internet Explorer 7 Quick Tabs or the foxPose extension.
- Windows Group Policy. Another blessing for IT administrators.
- Allow add-ons to be installed without rebooting Firefox.
- Simplified interface to manage downloads. Can it be simpler? Maybe exposing commands currently placed in the context menu.
You can read the complete Firefox 3 requirements at Mozilla Wiki.
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January 11th, 2007 at 8:55 am
• improved fonts rendering ?
Here’s an interesting post about Gecko’s new Cairo Graphics library:
http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/cairo-beats-safari
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January 11th, 2007 at 9:01 am
why the bloody hell would you integrate OS specific capabilities with the main browser? make a single extension to take care of that….
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January 11th, 2007 at 9:13 am
“Or perhaps, as I asked Santa, the ability to redirect mailto: links to web email services.”
If you have the Google Toolbar, you can already do this with GMail. It would be nice if they integrated it into the main browser, though.
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January 11th, 2007 at 9:15 am
I did not think it was possible to do a major version number release with less features than 2. However it looks like they are going to find a way.
2 had spell checking and long overdue completion of the search function (sorting, add remove).
3 looks like it will have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the way of new features. It looks like a administration point release.
The only people who will be interested are IT administrators and delusional parents who think that parental controls work.
What an absolute snore. The innovation curve for Firefox is akin to an avalanche where 1 was the pinnacle and everything is crashing downwards ever since.
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January 11th, 2007 at 9:26 am
I can just imagine the conversation ie7 has parental controls.. yes but firefox can save a webpage as a pdf?? Why the heck do people want to save a webpage which is easily accessible, can be got to via just a url, in an uneditable format, which they can do today anyway if they install pdfcreator (free and open source).
You guys seem to be dropping the ball.. I hope somneone really picks up and focus’s on the real priorities… From the poll, it looks like most of the people agree with me.
Why don’t you make an msi and focus on allowing corporate users and errr parents with kids to properly use firefox. Implement official group policy add ins, msi files and parental controls.. Wake up guys, focus on the larger markets.
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January 11th, 2007 at 10:14 am
Grant, I agree that parental controls is critical. How good it is depends of course on how it is implemented. Whitelisting could be a good option for some parents.
PDF printing is also critical but for other reasons. There are many cases when I have needed to share for example a computer configuration at some vendor, or a certain report or data view in a reporting application, and sending a link just doesn’t work because it won’t replciate what I am seeing and want the other people to see. It is great as well for archiving. Say, your current bank account statement, for an incorrect charge, or a payment, etc.
MSI is already a must have and group policy a good to have.
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January 11th, 2007 at 10:15 am
I miss any Mac specific improvements like a separate Intel and PPC version, implementation of keychain, faster rendering engine and improved graphics and font rendering.
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January 11th, 2007 at 10:23 am
That should be the job of users, not developers.
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January 11th, 2007 at 10:27 am
I’m using firefox 3.0 somewhat nice though it is in the alpha stages right now and I can’t tell a change, heh . . . .
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January 11th, 2007 at 10:30 am
Why a permanent restart Firefox button? That doesn’t sound right. How about making Firefox able to load newer versions of add-ons on-the-fly? Seamless update of add-ons. Maybe look into how antivirus softwares update their engines on-the-fly?
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January 11th, 2007 at 10:35 am
pd, those aren’t the only improvements–merely the userspace features. Remember that Firefox 3.0 will be based on Gecko 1.9, which means that, among other things, it will finally pass the Acid2 test (also will have more complete CSS2.1 and some more CSS3 support, like
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January 11th, 2007 at 10:42 am
While there are some good features on there the one big feature thats missing is an improved zoom facility, firefox is limited in that its not so much a zoom as a text enlarging feature. you can’t focus on images. When you do zoom your likly to break the look and feel of the site. I’m surprised this isn’t higher on the list of things todo.
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January 11th, 2007 at 10:56 am
Heliologue, you are right. Many other improvements are happening backstage. Firefox 3 Alpha 1 already has some of these in place.
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January 11th, 2007 at 11:01 am
Would like to see certain tabs markable as “private” to prevent cookies and/or javascript from working in the tab.
Re: Parental Controls… that should be an extension.
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January 11th, 2007 at 11:02 am
Percy, if you are still reading this.. go here:http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/
Pdfcreator, is free, open source and will work with all your applications….! Pdfs is imho unneccessary bloat… when there are enough dedicated apps to do it and can do it much better. No point reinventing the wheel.
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January 11th, 2007 at 11:27 am
“I can just imagine the conversation ie7 has parental controls.. yes but firefox can save a webpage as a pdf?? Why the heck do people want to save a webpage which is easily accessible, can be got to via just a url, in an uneditable format, which they can do today anyway if they install pdfcreator (free and open source). ”
Mac OS X can do this from any program anyway without stupid addons
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January 11th, 2007 at 11:58 am
I think it would be great to have an upload progress meter built into the browser. With increase in rich, user-submitted content, there is a need for feedback on the progress of a POST action.
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January 11th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
Am I the only one who thinks that, other than “A much needed print support to prevent cut paragraphs and true WYSIWYG.”, the list of main priorities includes nothing that should be a priority? Seems like there are alot of things Firefox needs more than those, like the ability to have a bookmarks toolbar more than one line. And they really should take the ideas behind the Copy Plain Text extension and make it a part of the core functionality, as well as the PDF Download extension and add the ability to control ALL document types with the option of opening in the browser, saving to disk, etc.
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January 11th, 2007 at 12:27 pm
“Support for remote bookmarks”
Woo-hoo!
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January 11th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
It would be nice if they just worked on keeping it from regularly using 80% of my 3.2 ghz processor.
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January 11th, 2007 at 1:49 pm
“And perhaps, as I asked Santa, the ability to redirect mailto: links to web email services.”
WebmailCompose extension - http://jedbrown.net/1.0/mozilla/extensions/
It even auto-detected that I use Gmail!
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January 11th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
@pd:
Most large Microsoftized sites won’t even consider the use of a browser that can’t be managed by Group Policy. The ability to force the browser to use a proxy, for example, is an absolute requirement. The MSI install and GP support will get Firefox into a lot of large sites and probably lead to a significant increase in the rate of adoption within a year or two.
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January 11th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
Download queueing would be nice… ex., max simultaneous downloads w/ automatic FIFO. It would be nice if the queue cached/managed session and/or cookies so that downloads from authenticated sites may correctly resume, ala poor man’s getright.
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January 11th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
What I would love to see in the new Firefox is the ability to send a tab to another window! For example, one Firefox WINDOW is all weather reports, the other is cars, but if I accidentally open a car-related topic in the weather WINDOW, I should be able to right click on the TAB and choose ’send to Firefox [2]‘ or ‘[3]‘ depending on the WINDOW ID. The WINDOW ID should be customizable so I can label it ‘Weather’ or ‘Cars’ while I’m working. It just makes organization a lot better and have found many other users are wishing for the same. So whaddya say guys? C’mon… give us a little love.
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January 11th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
So I see the infamous memory leak isn’t a top priority still. Maybe we’ll see that fixed in 4.0. Though I’m not holding my breath.
Also, the Download manager needs a performance boost. When you get too many downlaods in there it slows to a crawl to browse through them.
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January 11th, 2007 at 5:11 pm
That list seems slanted towards the early adopter/power user (e.g. remote bookmarks and handling links with web services). It would be nice to see more attention paid to polishing the UI. For example, you could fix some of the small broken bits of the UI in Firefox 2, for example:
- history search doesn’t work on the Mac (bug #338833)
- a tooltip blocking the bookmarks bar when dragging a proxy icon (bug #312852)
- menus should auto-scroll if you hover above/below them (bug #63295)
- there’s no way to specify an arbitrary application to handle unknown file types on the Mac (bug #352142)
- standard Mac keyboard shortcuts (e.g. Command-Option-F to select the web search box) aren’t supported (bug #348472)
These quirks are disappointing to those used to the relative refinement of the interfaces of most Mac programs, and I imagine they limit your competitiveness versus Safari.
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January 11th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Hmm … how about complete CSS 2.1 support, some CSS 3 features, and complete SVG support? Now that would be worth incrementing a full version number!
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January 11th, 2007 at 6:28 pm
Along with remote bookmarks, it would be really useful if FF included a feature to synchronize extensions across multiple computers. AFAIK, there is no way to do this with any extension currently in production. FEBE 4.0 comes close, but this is only a backup solution and only works on Windows.
Thanks to all developers for all the hard work with FF3.0!
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January 11th, 2007 at 8:47 pm
They should fix the crashes on windows server 2003. It crashes left and right…. sucks. I keep opening up IE for yahoo, which is where it keeps crashing.
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January 11th, 2007 at 8:58 pm
JWFokker in post 38 nailed the.. the…the most important fixes.
Which are also the most annoying things about FF.
1. MEMORY CONSUMPTION
2. DOWNLOAD MANAGER performance boost when there is many downloads
and lets not forget fix this dammed MEMORY consumption and then add new features.
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January 11th, 2007 at 9:49 pm
Wow guys… WOW. There’s a difference between planned features and fixes. For example, fixing a memory leak isn’t a damn FEATURE! I’m sure they have a dedicated team of people for fixing stuff, but that’s not what this news post is about, it’s about PLANNED FEATURES!
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January 11th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
This constitutes a major release? You climb your way to the top, then sit and catch your breath? Not cool.
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January 11th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
Another key word there is “some”, which in no way means “all”. If they meant the same thing, they wouldn’t have made 2 words for it. Who knows, they could have some secret features planned that they don’t want MS to copy before it’s release (which we all know MS does habitually, in fact most of their stuff is 1. not their idea, and 2. done a whole lot crappier than the original idea).
My point is, stop complaining and wait for officially announced features.
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January 11th, 2007 at 11:50 pm
Mouse gestures for tabs like Maxthon. And just better improvments on the rendering engine itself.
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January 12th, 2007 at 8:55 am
that is crap. not a single new feature. cant they think of anything. i can think of a million. and i mean proppa feature not some improvement or some lil code change
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January 12th, 2007 at 9:05 am
Grant, I use PDFCreator since about 3 years and love it. And still believe it must be provided by Firefox by default. Users need a solid way to share and archive documents. PDFs provide this. Lazy or unknowingly system admin are not deploying PDF capabilities to these users. I also believe Firefox PDF’s could more likely include links that currently PDF creator can’t, as far as I know.
Saving as PDF would be a killing feature, specially becuase Microsoft has already demonstrated it can’t achieve this (for licensing/marketing/strategy reasons) when it withdraw PDF printing from Office 2007.
Since Firefox is moving to the Cairo graphics rendering engine it should cost less to achieve this in terms of additional download/memory footprint. I would like to know the exact cost though, but I guess it’s not possible right now.
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January 13th, 2007 at 12:44 am
Real Zoom is (for me) the #1 item to implement. That could mean a lot less of work to design web sites.
By the way, isn’t there a place where, we, users, can make suggestions for Firefox 4.0?
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January 13th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
I’ve been wishing for years that Firefox would grow to implement something similar to http://www.avantbrowser.com/
The ability to browse with multiple screens is a priceless feature. Copying and pasting from one screen to another, or comparing prices/features of a product for example is a lot simpler with Avant. However Firefox rules and there’s just nothing Avant will ever be able to do about it. ;)
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January 14th, 2007 at 9:35 am
How about more control over the toolbars. I’d like to be able to group toolbars on the same level so that I can reduce the overhead and increase the browser window size.
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JeffApril 29th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
I agree that the ability to group toolbars together on a single line would be very useful. This is a feature that has long existed in IE…you don’t realize how some of those little things really matter until you move from IE to something else!
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February 11th, 2007 at 2:30 am
PDF is no solution. I don’t need YA PDF creation implementation on my drive (I have OpenOffice, and three different print to PDF drivers, which also addresses your “PDF should use print style sheet” wish). What’s really required is a proper page web page archive format (WAR file, or the MARs some older hacked together beta plugin for win32 could make) that can be viewed natively, and extracted with common tools (tar+gz, zip) for use by other browsers or indexing.
I hope the “remote bookmarks” ends up being a proper reimplementation of the baby-thrown-out-with-the-bathwater known as roaming, and not some clone of the google bookmarks add-on.
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February 13th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Firefox is the only browser that lacks a real ZOOM (not simple text enlargement) feature.
Real Zoom is more important than all these other features.
Can we have it for Firefox 4.0??
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March 6th, 2007 at 12:57 pm
We have seen download managers such as DownThemAll that accelerate downloads. Can’t we use a similar kind of logic to accelerate uploading of web pages. Imagine opening urls 400% faster !?
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May 10th, 2007 at 5:14 am
Thanks for the news. Is there any chance to discuss the Mailto-Redirect-to-Webmail function? Would be extremenly interested in this, possibly contribute.
Regards, Martin
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May 27th, 2007 at 9:28 pm
It would be Supper, if you had a feature where it would set a prefixed size FOR Every website individually, set by the user, to any website of his/her choice.
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May 28th, 2007 at 8:09 am
Make it compatible with vista…Bring it more together with Thunderbird email…Thank You…
and get ver 3 out as soon as possible.!!!!!
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May 29th, 2007 at 10:25 am
Please fix the forms appearance on Linux,It is a shame to have to put up with such ugly form elements when using Firefox on Linux, this is not the case using Opera.
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May 30th, 2007 at 12:55 am
I’d like to see the firefox 3 to have integrated online bookmark like del.icio.us and make people able to synchronize their bookmark with their fav online bookmark. I think, it would be really cool feature.
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June 6th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Sounds like a good idea. Lets just hope they stick with the roots of Firefox when they first released it. Oh, and they find a way to stop making firefox suck up 99.999% of system resources for no apparent reason. Other than that, I love firefox and I wouldn’t trade it for anything.
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June 10th, 2007 at 12:54 pm
How about the ability to resize the address and search boxes and use the space for add-ons? They take up more room that is needed or desired and is a waste of precious space.
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June 11th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
I would like the Opera feature “Fit to Width” to be included with Firefox 3.
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June 18th, 2007 at 10:32 am
I love FireFox, and am awaiting the update.
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June 18th, 2007 at 10:35 am
I hope they fix the forms of FireFox for mac, some elements of webpages, like radio buttons, dropdown menus, forms, are horrible, and even hard to use. With safari, none of these problems arise.
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June 22nd, 2007 at 2:37 pm
One enhancement that is overdue - in the “organize bookmarks” window, when I do a search for a link - how do I determine what folder that link is in? I’d like to tab (move focus) to the left panel and have it highlight the appropriate folder.
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July 10th, 2007 at 3:14 am
I would like to recommend adding the ability to password protect firefox profiles. Reason being, many family members might use the same computer and have bookmarks not intended for the other users to be able to use/view or to have the freedom of changing configurations or other users profiles. It gives a whole other meaning of personalizing your firefox profile and keeping if personalized. I hope this helps for firefox 3.
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July 12th, 2007 at 4:46 am
>The much requested MSI installer which will be a much welcomed improvement for IT administrators as it will ease deployment and updating of Firefox across a company.
Oooooh, give me the sweet MSI!
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July 27th, 2007 at 10:37 am
improved font rendering like ie7 ( subpixel ) anti-aliasing , ClearType , etc
would be cool
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August 4th, 2007 at 7:56 am
yeap, a “fit-to-width” opera-like feature would simply be awsome.
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August 22nd, 2007 at 8:27 pm
“Much requested” MSI installer? Was it really?
I don’t know about anybody else but I absolutely DESPISE the MSI installer/framework! So slow, sluggish and buggy!
Nullsoft’s NSIS is many multiple times superior.
TBH, I wouldn’t be worried about “sysadmins”. These are the types that do IT admin for large corporate or Government offices - they will be leaving IE as the desktop as they are too dumb to try anything different.
Any admin worth his salt will steer as far away as possible from MSI and use the most stable installer available, if indeed, any installer at all. This software can easily be slip-streamed into the XP installation. They will be able to make do, or even prefer to do without, an installer.
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August 30th, 2007 at 12:03 pm
Native Tag “bookmarks” support would be nice. Bookmark folders are so dead and restrictive. Many websites fit into more than one category
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September 10th, 2007 at 5:28 am
The download manager in Firefox 2 is quite poor, I’d love to see the interface revised as Download Statusbar:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/26
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September 29th, 2007 at 8:57 am
Add a “send page” feature along with the current “send link”.
Npt being able to “send page” is quite annoying. The add-on for sending a page is a poor imitation of the real thing.
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October 13th, 2007 at 11:43 am
is mozilla firefox compatible with windows vista. I just bought this new computer that came with internet explora but I want Mozilla but some people have said it is not compatible yet. please let me know so I can download it.
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October 19th, 2007 at 1:33 am
Two things (please? pretty please?)
1. Tab window : The ability to split a tab out to an independent window (without reloading the page) and to tell a window to become a tab on another window.
2. Multi-proxy : The ability to have different proxies for each window, or even each tab. As a developer I switch proxy 100+ times a day. In practice it is switching between the same pages as viewed via 3 different proxies.
And for bonus points (or if #2 cannot be done)
3. Independent-start option : The ability to start a new firefox process that will _not_ share cookies etc with the one already running. It should run as independantly as it can, so two firefoxes can be used in parallel, with different setups.
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October 22nd, 2007 at 1:05 pm
Why does firefox not incorporate ‘word wrap’ into their browser?
The bottom scroll bar is a real pain!!!
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October 28th, 2007 at 5:24 am
this may have been covered before, but I would really like to see vista’s aero-glass integrated into the client-areas of Firefox 3.
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October 29th, 2007 at 8:04 am
Mozilla Firefox 3 ability to start a new firefox window that will not share cookies etc with the one already opened window.
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November 11th, 2007 at 2:01 pm
Could that be accomplished to use Firefox instead of IE to view-download-update_Windows-etc???
I’m not a developer but why not be able to use “my choice browser”
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November 12th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Firefox needs to be multi-session like IE7…for example me and my girlfriend can both be logged into our face book accounts on same comp at same time using IE7 but not with Firefox…i don’t know if you can build an add on for this or just simply update the existing platform, but whatever the case this would help you corner the market as besides these points Firefox is a far superior browser and being able to multi session would be better not only for your home users but also for businesses…people dont want 2 browsers loaded on there desktop IE7 is a virus/spyware magnet and i would personally like to get rid of it but cannot due to that 1 drawback of firefox.
please consider this firefox rocks and there is no need for them microsoft boneheads to have a step up on you in any aspect of the browser market,
Thank You
Jason Druet
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November 12th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
Will it have more css3 compatibility? Are we finally going to be able to use word-wrap property? Help I need compatibility!!!!!
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November 20th, 2007 at 7:17 pm
Features are fine but not without basic usability. That [plus speed] is why i’ve stayed with Opera and will continue to do so [instantly zoom and fit-to-width] your web pages!] until it’s built in [and not a klunky inferior extension].
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November 22nd, 2007 at 7:53 pm
More safari and mac os x support and integration.
Please please please
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December 4th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
Do you have an actual release date for FireFox 3?
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December 5th, 2007 at 11:24 pm
Okay so this might be a stretch for any web browser but it would give a search engine junkie like me a great tool.
Here’s the scenarion;
I open a browser window
enter search keyword into the search bar
hold the ctrl key down and open the six to 8 most interesting links related to my keyword in separate tabs
I find the page I wish to view and grab the tab by its title and drag it to the desktop which in turn opens a new single browser of only THAT page
Then I conveniently close the browser with the unwanted keyword tabs.
Is this a dumb idea or what?
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December 10th, 2007 at 1:51 am
About the Download management:
It would be very nice to be able to pause a current download at any time and resume it days later.
Because once close (Firefox) all current downloads are lost.
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December 28th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Really want to download v3, but I use yahoo mail. Has the bug been fixed yet?
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January 9th, 2008 at 12:37 am
Also I hope they can fix the bloat that’s in mozilla firefox 2, and hopefully that’s furfilled in firefox 3
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January 21st, 2008 at 3:37 am
wow. i wish “show all bookmarks” manager thingy still had drag and drop. Also, any idea about getting an enter( or go ) button next to the address bar?
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February 7th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
will it also support css3 and previous standards of html and css . what new supports it is bringing for javascript and xml.
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February 20th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Mozilla firefox 2 is even safer to browse with than Internet Explorer 8 or 9. The SSL technology which it uses it amazing! The safest software available on the planet to use. A person who does not know Mozilla firefox , must not be a net surfer !!!
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March 8th, 2008 at 7:12 am
Dear sir,
I would like to know if it is safe to use beta version as i newly shift from IE7 to firefox 2
thanks
Avinash
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April 23rd, 2008 at 10:47 am
I had to use Firefox to to read a web document that IE7 couldn’t. I decided to make Firefox my default browser and try it out. I really like the CTL+ for zooming but have to go back to using IE7 as my default browser because Firefox doesn’t wrap long lines which is a deal breaker. The whole ideal of a web browser is to help you read the web page so zooming and word wrapping are mandatory basic functionality above all else.
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April 24th, 2008 at 11:48 am
IS it safe to use beta version as i newly shift from IE7 to firefox 2
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May 2nd, 2008 at 2:28 pm
From a regular user standpoint, not a serious IT guy.
1) I like the speed of firefox, loads a hell of a lot faster then IE7
2) The Bookmarks Toolbar is excellent, one reason I stuck with Firefox
3) The download window is a major pain in my backside, its one more thing I have to click to get out of my view.
Integrate it into the existing look of Firefox like up top to the right of the Help menu. Plenty of room there.
4) Addons are so much easier in firefox, I agree with someone way up the list, dont make a permenant restart button, just make the addon install itself and restart itself back to the same page the user was browsing. Why ask just do it.
5) A permenant button for fast browsing (No history/passwords) is a great idea, one touch on/off is all we need. Nothing complicated please!
6) The FireFTP addon is one of the greatest addons in Firefox, a WYSIWYG with the majority of functions html coders need is defininetly lacking.
7) For the love of God, please stay away from becoming “VISTA RETARDED”. Dont go security crazy, we just want to surf.
8) The Mailto function working with web based email services would be excellent, I would give my l/r nut for that. Im sick of copy/pasteing it.
Thanks thats all I have.
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