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	<title>Comments on: Firefox 4 will feature two tiered menu</title>
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		<title>By: tanzanos</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/2010/08/firefox-4-will-feature-two-tiered-menu/comment-page-1/#comment-79813</link>
		<dc:creator>tanzanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AND???? Before I uninstalled FF4 I visited various forums and was told that the old style menus are gone for good with FF4. Why should I be ashamed of myself??????? I have not robbed or hurt anyone. Now be a good boy and explain to me the ashamed stupid person how to get the old style menus on FF4 :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND???? Before I uninstalled FF4 I visited various forums and was told that the old style menus are gone for good with FF4. Why should I be ashamed of myself??????? I have not robbed or hurt anyone. Now be a good boy and explain to me the ashamed stupid person how to get the old style menus on FF4 :)</p>
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		<title>By: fdsag</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/2010/08/firefox-4-will-feature-two-tiered-menu/comment-page-1/#comment-79755</link>
		<dc:creator>fdsag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, if you don&#039;t like it&#039;s so easy to get the old menu bar back that if you weren&#039;t able to do it, you shouldn&#039;t be proudly saying you removed ff4 because of that, you should be ashamed of yourself.

The only thing you need to do is right click on a toolbar and check &quot;Menu Bar&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, if you don&#8217;t like it&#8217;s so easy to get the old menu bar back that if you weren&#8217;t able to do it, you shouldn&#8217;t be proudly saying you removed ff4 because of that, you should be ashamed of yourself.</p>
<p>The only thing you need to do is right click on a toolbar and check &#8220;Menu Bar&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: tanzanos</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/2010/08/firefox-4-will-feature-two-tiered-menu/comment-page-1/#comment-79580</link>
		<dc:creator>tanzanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uninstalled Firefox 4 and went back to 3.6; Why? Well if Firefox decided to hide all the menus and go for the Taliban woman look (if you are a woman in Afghanistan then hide or be shot) then you are going to loose a lot of your user base. Drop down toolbar menu is what I want and not some hide and seek fancy rubbish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uninstalled Firefox 4 and went back to 3.6; Why? Well if Firefox decided to hide all the menus and go for the Taliban woman look (if you are a woman in Afghanistan then hide or be shot) then you are going to loose a lot of your user base. Drop down toolbar menu is what I want and not some hide and seek fancy rubbish!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/2010/08/firefox-4-will-feature-two-tiered-menu/comment-page-1/#comment-79192</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check my idea for the menu of Firefox

Quick Menu http://davidpohl.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/my-ultimate-idea-the-fourth-idea/

Quick menu 2  http://davidpohl.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/the-fifth-idea/

My idea is better , really check these links . I hate this new menu. So I invented an alternative ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check my idea for the menu of Firefox</p>
<p>Quick Menu <a href="http://davidpohl.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/my-ultimate-idea-the-fourth-idea/" rel="nofollow">http://davidpohl.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/my-ultimate-idea-the-fourth-idea/</a></p>
<p>Quick menu 2  <a href="http://davidpohl.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/the-fifth-idea/" rel="nofollow">http://davidpohl.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/the-fifth-idea/</a></p>
<p>My idea is better , really check these links . I hate this new menu. So I invented an alternative ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Lacky</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/2010/08/firefox-4-will-feature-two-tiered-menu/comment-page-1/#comment-78976</link>
		<dc:creator>Lacky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that menu! Before you had to press alt if you just wanted to look at your downloads or if you wanted to update minefield.. 
And a lot of people don`t know that the menu pops up when you press alt, so they have to fit everything in this button!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that menu! Before you had to press alt if you just wanted to look at your downloads or if you wanted to update minefield..<br />
And a lot of people don`t know that the menu pops up when you press alt, so they have to fit everything in this button!</p>
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		<title>By: Percy Cabello</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/2010/08/firefox-4-will-feature-two-tiered-menu/comment-page-1/#comment-78974</link>
		<dc:creator>Percy Cabello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to hide the menu bar: right-click on it and select Hide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to hide the menu bar: right-click on it and select Hide.</p>
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		<title>By: Antoine Turmel (GeekShadow)</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/2010/08/firefox-4-will-feature-two-tiered-menu/comment-page-1/#comment-78973</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoine Turmel (GeekShadow)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind, found it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind, found it!</p>
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		<title>By: Przemek</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/2010/08/firefox-4-will-feature-two-tiered-menu/comment-page-1/#comment-78972</link>
		<dc:creator>Przemek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admit it, mozilla has no idea what to do with this menu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admit it, mozilla has no idea what to do with this menu.</p>
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		<title>By: Antoine Turmel (GeekShadow)</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/2010/08/firefox-4-will-feature-two-tiered-menu/comment-page-1/#comment-78965</link>
		<dc:creator>Antoine Turmel (GeekShadow)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you get the Firefox button on XP ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you get the Firefox button on XP ?</p>
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		<title>By: Mohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool, would like to see it in action!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool, would like to see it in action!</p>
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		<title>By: David Naylor</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/2010/08/firefox-4-will-feature-two-tiered-menu/comment-page-1/#comment-78963</link>
		<dc:creator>David Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will take some getting used to, that&#039;s for sure. What worries me is that we are the savvy people saying this ... how are the &quot;normal&quot; users going to interact with this?

It definitely looks ugly in your XP screenshot. Looks much better under Windows 7 at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will take some getting used to, that&#8217;s for sure. What worries me is that we are the savvy people saying this &#8230; how are the &#8220;normal&#8221; users going to interact with this?</p>
<p>It definitely looks ugly in your XP screenshot. Looks much better under Windows 7 at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Astreek</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/2010/08/firefox-4-will-feature-two-tiered-menu/comment-page-1/#comment-78962</link>
		<dc:creator>Astreek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I now that I am guilty for using such a marginal OS like a Linux-based, but I would like to have in Firefox 4 the Firefox menu, like in other OSs. 
And Chrome doesn&#039;t have tags in bookmarks, but the menu thing in a button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I now that I am guilty for using such a marginal OS like a Linux-based, but I would like to have in Firefox 4 the Firefox menu, like in other OSs.<br />
And Chrome doesn&#8217;t have tags in bookmarks, but the menu thing in a button.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Cow</title>
		<link>http://mozillalinks.org/2010/08/firefox-4-will-feature-two-tiered-menu/comment-page-1/#comment-78961</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous Cow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drop down menus are a necessary evil.  Flyout menus, doubly evil and rarely necessary.  This *looks* atrociously worse.

(The reason drop downs are bad is that they hide interface and are marginally harder to target than a static interface -- not too terrible of strikes, but they can also become unmanageable messes, especially if... You have flyout menus, which are bad because they hide even more interface and are even harder by far to target).

From this mockup I can&#039;t even tell what&#039;s going on.

However, if the minefield button is activated on press, that&#039;s a good thing for the drop down menu.  But I can&#039;t tell what is going on with all the little arrows.

Regardless of theory I try to apply, I see horribly too many and too small targets.

Yuck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drop down menus are a necessary evil.  Flyout menus, doubly evil and rarely necessary.  This *looks* atrociously worse.</p>
<p>(The reason drop downs are bad is that they hide interface and are marginally harder to target than a static interface &#8212; not too terrible of strikes, but they can also become unmanageable messes, especially if&#8230; You have flyout menus, which are bad because they hide even more interface and are even harder by far to target).</p>
<p>From this mockup I can&#8217;t even tell what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>However, if the minefield button is activated on press, that&#8217;s a good thing for the drop down menu.  But I can&#8217;t tell what is going on with all the little arrows.</p>
<p>Regardless of theory I try to apply, I see horribly too many and too small targets.</p>
<p>Yuck!</p>
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		<title>By: Przemek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Przemek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t like the way Mozilla is pushing Firefox. WTF is that menu? It&#039;s even weirder than Gmai&#039;s new wtf-button. Focus on things that matter -&gt; look at your uservoice. If somebody would want to change the menu for his/her personal preference, he/she would to it with some addon (plenty available for such strange actions). I&#039;m telling you. Get your priorities straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t like the way Mozilla is pushing Firefox. WTF is that menu? It&#8217;s even weirder than Gmai&#8217;s new wtf-button. Focus on things that matter -&gt; look at your uservoice. If somebody would want to change the menu for his/her personal preference, he/she would to it with some addon (plenty available for such strange actions). I&#8217;m telling you. Get your priorities straight.</p>
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