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	<title>Comments on: Uninstall the Java Console extension</title>
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		<title>By: Percy Cabello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Percy Cabello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree it is a subjective matter. Personally, there&#039;s a reason people install the JRE and it is to run Java applets and applications. The Java console has no role in this case, and I believe it belongs to the JDK.

Making it uninstallable for whatever reason doesn&#039;t help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it is a subjective matter. Personally, there&#8217;s a reason people install the JRE and it is to run Java applets and applications. The Java console has no role in this case, and I believe it belongs to the JDK.</p>
<p>Making it uninstallable for whatever reason doesn&#8217;t help.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well michael i kinda disagree with you, java or picasa can run just fine without those added unnecessary, and sometimes dangerous addon-ons (java deployment toolkit anyone?), you want to run java on the browser, for that you don&#039;t need the java helper or the deployment toolkit, those are to me like unwanted toolbar installs, it should be opt-in not opt-out, although in this case percy if you go to the java control panel in the windows control panel, on the advance portion there is a option to disable all of those added plugins (as well as auto-start and idiotic stuff like that), much easier than what you explained, and probably the proper way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well michael i kinda disagree with you, java or picasa can run just fine without those added unnecessary, and sometimes dangerous addon-ons (java deployment toolkit anyone?), you want to run java on the browser, for that you don&#8217;t need the java helper or the deployment toolkit, those are to me like unwanted toolbar installs, it should be opt-in not opt-out, although in this case percy if you go to the java control panel in the windows control panel, on the advance portion there is a option to disable all of those added plugins (as well as auto-start and idiotic stuff like that), much easier than what you explained, and probably the proper way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the Java Deployment Toolkit that firefox has marked as causing stability or security issues? When I disabled this toolkit, I was unable to use photo-uploading features on sites like Zenfolio &amp; Facebook that are java-powered. Eventually had to re-enable in order to upload my pictures. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the Java Deployment Toolkit that firefox has marked as causing stability or security issues? When I disabled this toolkit, I was unable to use photo-uploading features on sites like Zenfolio &amp; Facebook that are java-powered. Eventually had to re-enable in order to upload my pictures. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Lefevre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Lefevre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it installs software I didn’t ask for, specially if it modifies another application&quot;

This statement seems unjustified in this case.  You are installing a plugin into the browser - the console is just there so you can see output from the plugin.  I guess it could be an optional part of the install, but it&#039;s not like it&#039;s installing a search toolbar or something else unrelated.  It would be rather hard for a browser plugin to install itself without &quot;modifying another application&quot;.

&quot;for some reason you can’t uninstall just by going to the Add-ons Manager&quot;

As the next part suggests, the reason you (sometimes) can&#039;t uninstall is because it is installed into the program folder, and depending on Windows version and settings, you can&#039;t change stuff in the program folder without administrator position.  You cannot uninstall any plugins from within Firefox - you have to use Windows control panel.

The only thing I find objectionable about the Java console is that an upgrade of Java fails to remove the old versions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it installs software I didn’t ask for, specially if it modifies another application&#8221;</p>
<p>This statement seems unjustified in this case.  You are installing a plugin into the browser &#8211; the console is just there so you can see output from the plugin.  I guess it could be an optional part of the install, but it&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s installing a search toolbar or something else unrelated.  It would be rather hard for a browser plugin to install itself without &#8220;modifying another application&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;for some reason you can’t uninstall just by going to the Add-ons Manager&#8221;</p>
<p>As the next part suggests, the reason you (sometimes) can&#8217;t uninstall is because it is installed into the program folder, and depending on Windows version and settings, you can&#8217;t change stuff in the program folder without administrator position.  You cannot uninstall any plugins from within Firefox &#8211; you have to use Windows control panel.</p>
<p>The only thing I find objectionable about the Java console is that an upgrade of Java fails to remove the old versions.</p>
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