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ShareThisTomorrow, Mozilla will release Firefox 3 Beta 3, the eleventh milestone in the longest development time for a Firefox revision since the initial Firefox 1.0 on 2004. The eight alphas and trio of betas (so far), if anything, are a reflection of the long list of enhancements it (Firefox) and the underlying Gecko rendering engine, are bringing along.
Visual Refresh
Without a doubt the most visible change introduced in this beta are the theme updates in all platforms. On Windows XP and Vista, a large part of the planned new XP icons has been added to the main toolbar, the Options window, the Download Manager, here and there.
Reception hasn’t been warm precisely as was to be expected: just the same happened when Firefox dropped the Qute theme for Winstripe around version 0.9, again with the updates just before 1.0 and yet again when Radiant Core updated Firefox 2.0 icons to its current washed out aspect.
I haven’t been a big fan of any Firefox default theme so far and it doesn’t seem Firefox 3′s will be an exception. But we’ll see. There are still theme updates pending, as well as small icons, and Vista icons.
The Options window on Windows XP with the new icons.
On the other hand, Mac OS X users seem to be more satisfied with the landing of Proto, a Safari-like theme introduced along with Beta 2. Linux users also get a very well integrated theme that uses native icons.
The back and forward buttons have been combined in a single keyhole-shaped widget featuring a single history menu. So far just Windows XP and Vista feature it but Mac OS X versions are ready and waiting to get in. An option to split the combined icons in the customize toolbar dialog is being considered.
We can also expect a revised throbber (the connection activity indicator) coming soon.
The Home button has been moved to the Bookmarks toolbar by default (but can be easily moved back) and the splitter that allows to resize the search and location bars when placed next to each other has become invisible.
Developers are aiming to deliver better operating system integration in Firefox 3. This will be most notorious for Mac OS X and Linux users who will now get native widgets like text boxes, menus, check boxes, icons, button order and orientation following each OS guidelines.
On Linux, Beta 3 adds native file open and print dialogs that provide image thumbnails and more printing options.
Mac OS X users get integration with Growl, a popular centralized notification system, while Windows Vista gets native looking menus and new icons that should be added for the next beta.
The Page Information dialog has been reviewed to become more organized and informative and allows to set all site specific preference from a single location.
Thanks Ken. As usually it took a ridiculously larger amount of time than I first thought! (even with some copy/pasting from some past articles)
Ken is right, this was the best (and very detailed) overview of the new features, thank you!
I am sure that many more IE users will be converted by Firefox 3, the new convenient location bar and bookmarks are not beatable by any other browser.
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“With keywords, if you associate the w keyword with Wikipedia (now a default search engine)”
why is that? i though google pay them lots of money for using it as default search engine
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temp, loads of money haven’t stopped Mozilla from shipping Firefox with six search engines in the past. Now they are seven.
Still not out.
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Will Firefox ever support Mac Services menu items.
One of the most useful ones I have is a clipping service which i would like to use.
Thanks
Very nice review! There really is a HEAP of nice new things coming in Firefox 3!! :D
Wow ! Awesome features ! I can’t wait for the final version or at least RC !
Wow.. excellent and comprehensive listing of features. I am drooling at some of these and can’t wait to get my hands on the new beta 3. :-)
You should add something about internationalization.
With Cairo, the support for languages that require complex handling has improved a lot, Thai users for exemple will very much notice this is the first version that natively support proper line breaks in their language, also support of ligatures and composed characters has enormously improved, users of arabic will be thankful, but even in english you can see the effect by using a nice calligraphic font like Zapfino.
There will be indeed many improvements in this Firefox 3.
But, do you consider that Linux = Gnome and (given your screenshot) Linux = Ubuntu ?
You forgot to mention (in the under the hood section) the rewrite of the underlying thread model, which means that Firefox will perform better with multicore processors. Firefox 2.0′s periodic hangs on my quad-core Xeon was driving me nuts!
Werewolf and jmpdesp, thanks for sharing.
makosol, Ubuntu = good Linux example.
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I’m sorry the ‘visual refresh’ on the Vista side is gag worthy. The combined Back/Forward Icon looks pixelated and worse just tacky. I can’t even get the old icons back.
Other than that the browser has performing superb stability wise compared to FF2. I havent missed a beat at all using it as my primary browser.
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Yahoo Mail works now as well (woohoo!). It and other AJAX sites seem really fast in this latest beta.
Yeah thats not linux integration… gnome integration maybe and if I remember correctly, theres more than one environment for linux…
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Awesome. I was getting tired of firefox not sucking.
Firefox comes out with tabs. IE copies them pronto. Then Firefox 2 comes along looking just like IE? What is this whole mentality that Microsoft has started where every new version of a software product has to move, change, delete, rename, whatever every blamed function and shortcut? And why do all the “independent” developers just follow right along in their footsteps like lemmings? I HATE FF2 and FF3 looks even worse. It boggles my mind that after finally finding a non Microsoft product that works well (except for all the sites for which FF _doesn’t_ work) they have to come along and TAKE AWAY functionality and replace it with glitter and a bunch of vague, blobby counter-intuitive icons. I want a product that lets me keep the look and functionality of the previous version if I want to. Take for example the “go button”. FF1 let me put it where I wanted it. FF2 forces one crappy location or allows it to be deleted via a mysterious browser page of cryptic settings for which you have to search the internet for info. But I can no longer put it where it works for me. Now the *&^%$ thing is going to start popping in and out?
The browser is a tool. The operating system is a tool. I don’t start either one to “enjoy” all of the frustrations of using either one, especially when the (#$^%&^ designers think they are some kind of ^%#^#& playground for demented artists. A true artist doesn’t try to force everyone into the same box.
I realize everybody browses and sees things their own way but I couldn’t help but notice that in a four page review, the first and largest item seemed to be how pretty the software is.
I thought I was safe when I got to page three and saw something about safety, but right under it was a mention of animated graphics.
I’m very happy about the per-site controls and memory cleanup. Firefox has been getting larger, like a certain other unmentionable browser.
I’d like to hear about how it’s going to blow the doors off the other browser, which features swiss cheese security. Or perhaps that it has gotten faster so it can compete with Opera. And if it will coexist nicely with earlier versions on all platforms.
I’m no doubt in the minority, but I don’t want to *experience* a site – I want to *read* it. I use Opera (scripting+cookies off) for its speed and safety. I use Firefox when a site gives me grief about cookies, javascript, or requires a plugin. I use IE as a last resort (even on linux). And if the site requires flash, I go elsewhere.
Hopefully I can get the smell of Ajax out of my nose before I do the install.
I look forward to trying out F3. Thanks for a balanced review.
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what happened to the home button on the toolbar? i cant do without it? I mean u guys forgot to put it in or something?…
How could you?
FYI, Linux is not getting the keyhole, as it’s not native to Linux and goes against the push towards full Linux native theming. Please update that snippet in your article. :)
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Yuck! Here’s hoping you can turn off that ugly combined back/forward button to it’s individual counterparts because it’s seriously the ugliest change I have seen to Firefox since it came out.
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I think the development from Beta 2 to Beta 3 is very impressive and makes the wait worth.
All nice and good, Places organizer is still something tht kept me wanting more, specially the bookmarks tagging.
After using google bookmarks and del.icio.us for some time I still find it a little difficult to quickly tag my bookmarks in bulk. I have a very huge bookmark list and tagging multiple bookmarks is kind of impossible. Also the lack of auto complete of tags in properties is very much required.
I would also like to see option of creating our own smart bookmarks using the same search query method shown in the thumbnails above.
But still great improvements. 2 THUMBS UP
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So how do you kill the crappy location bar this time????
That combined back/forward button is absolutely hideous. Where can I go to complain about that?
If that can’t be changed, there is no way in the world I’ll be using Firefox on any platform.
Firefox used to have a pretty good UI. No more, I guess.
I’d just like to say that the new firefox theme is *fantastic*. It’s the first default theme that’s actually good.
Congratulations, guys, you rock.
The XP theme is absolutely horrible.
Just a note to say the following “Firefox 2008″ link was presented in the Beta 3 “Ads by Google” section.
http://firefox.softhip.com/
hmm…. dodgy
What about the used memory?
The memory used, grow up a lot in the time or not?
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Just a note to people as retarded as myself: don’t be confused if you have your toolbars set to show “Icons and Text” and notice no keyhole-shaped back-and-forward widget. Firefox uses the old icons in that instance.
I have Beta 3 and it looks nothing like this under XP. Wierd!!
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Very great location bar. I think, it would be even better with autocomplete on several words à la Text Mate
I totaly dislike the new url-history … its just ugly :(. Hoping for addons to turn it back to the old default.
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The Memory+Cache and also the loading times while initialiting Java Applets or Flash Movies have seriously been extremly high.
Hope that had been fixed, otherwise im downgrading back to MIE
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leftystrat, thanks for your comments and pointing out the absence of a memory and performance comment. I agree it is a critical aspect and I should be posting an article on the topic soon, as some important memory optimization bugs land in the next few days.
There’s also a reason for the themes being the first area and it is that I have to balance the review between users who are getting a Firefox 3 milestone for the first time and those who have been following its development for some time now. For the latter, the themes update is the most noticeable change since Beta 2.
Well done for the review. One of the best reviews I have seen for a while.
I’ve been using FF since around v1.5 mainly for its tabbed browsing.I have tested FF3 B1, B2 and now B3. I love the new address bar. However the lack of google browser sync extension and new yahoo mail not working make me switch back to FF2 after a few days.
I think the Places feature is a little convoluted. I dont see many people using the ‘advanced’ capabilities of this. I think most people just want (need) good old simple bookmark.
take the home icon off the bookmarks tool bar and put it back to its original position on the menu bar
Can you list which addons are compatible with the FF3. I mostly use Foxmarks, Colorzilla, Measureit and Fireshot.
Thanks,
Lawk
Id love to switch on Firefox 3 already mainly because of the Memory fix, but I just couldn’t because my firefox 2 extensions is not working on v3 yet…
I’ve been using Firefox 3 since Alpha 2 and I think there’s nothing more to say than this: Bye, bye, Internet Explorer (now even more than ever before). I love every single feature added in Firefox 3 and I love every single feature added in Beta 3. The new UI looks really great (and I’m eagerly waiting for the promised icons to be added in Beta 4).
And, last but definitely not least, I’d like to express my regard for this great review!
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while downloading any file if downloading connection failed due to power failure, fire fox download manager donot offer resume download when the connection estiblished again.
so ihave to download the file from the begining, which is wastage of time, bandwitch too.
please do some thing for resume down load as in operaa web browser.
thanks
s s mehndiratta
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s s mehndiratta, Beta 3 will continue an interrupted download automatically if the server supports download resuming which is the case for a large majority but not all of them.
Any way to get the Beta2 default theme into Beta3 on Mac? I do not like the new look. Too black on dark greyish for me.
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Those back and forward buttons are grotesque! Absolutely hideous.
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Lets get that home button back on the main toolbar
Pleeeeeeeeeease
I cannot find something similar to the “Flashblock” I had in the older Beta 2 version. It was very useful, somebody help me please!
Great in depth review on Firefox 3 beta 3. I’m very pleased to see the new visual enhancements taking place, I love the new combined back/forward navigation buttons and the home icon being relocated to the bookmarks tool bar. If I had to find any flaw in the interface, it would be the refresh button but other than that its awesome. These changes will definitely motivate IE and other browser users to use Firefox.
I can’t believe Mozilla actually paid money for this theme. It looks like Icon Factory wanted to justify the money they’re receiving while not making any real effort to develop something distinctly Firefox. I just hope things have not been so drastically altered that the community of them writers will be frustrated with applying their themes to Minefield/Firefox 3.
I moved my bookmarks that were on my bookmarks toolbar up next to the main toolbar(File, Edit, View, etc) in an attempt to give myself more real estate… Now you have gone and moved the Home button to the Bookmark toolbar, which I am hiding.. so now I have no home button…
Thanks : (
I’ve just updated to beta3. So far so good. For folks who wish use non-compatible (old) extensions: try “nightly tester tool” extension. That tool makes old extension compatible with beta3. Be carefull – that can make firefox not working at all and you’ll bo forced to re-start it in safe-mode
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Please move the Home button back to the main toolbar!
Could Dão Gottwald (Bug 404109) or other Mozilla developer(s) gave us a detailed explanation and reasoning behind moving the Home button to the Bookmarks toolbar by default?
“(but can be easily moved back)” Is this statement suppose to be a joke? When a normal user can’t find the usual Home button, they will try to call you up and ask “WTF is my Home button?”. You then have to walk them through customizing the tool bar… oh, wait the minute, the Home button is not there! That right, you have to view the bookmark toolbar, then customize, then drag the home button back to the main toolbar!!!
So far, this little change has accomplish the following:
- Made Firefox more difficult to use since it attempted to change user normal behavior.
- Frustrations for Firefox user.
- Hampering the efforts of people trying to spread Firefox.
Once again, please explain the reasoning for this change and move the Home button back to the main toolbar!
I really like this on also One tip make a button that gets a new tab if you did the kind of like enter explore everyone would use Firefox that’s one of the main reasons some of my friends don’t use Firefox and put back the home button!
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Hi and greetings from Germany!
I just wanted to tell you that I miss the Homebutton, too.
But will it integrate seemlessly with emacs!?!?!?
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great! When’s the final version available? How will it handle interfaces to websites that today work better with IE?
Hi ppl,
It’s very easy to move the home button, just do the following: Right click on the navigation bar and pres customize. Now you can move the home button around to the previous location.
Good luck.
Rogier
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I have been very pleased with the 3.2 beta version. I did have 1 browser list crashes. I was changing my media player settings in the browser section when it crashed. But MY drag and drop works great. I will now download F.F.3.3 beta version to check it out. Thank you for the opportunity to submit a comment. Have a GREAT day and I look forward to the final version. :) dean
Ahhh, home button?
I do not seem to have the same problem as some others do when it comes to the HOME button being moved. Once I come on line and view my home page, I’m off to adventure where ever I can go and faster than I could before, Thanks to Firefox!!! I can always keep that one tab available for my home page or not. Once I leave my home page what is the need to go back? NONE, never went back never even found the need. In fact since you moved it, which by the way wasn’t even noticed till I read the other submits I have more room for the things I want. With the star and feed buttons right there in with the navigational bar I have found no need for the button bar so I hide it, (which is a KOOL feature)but knowing if I need it it’s not a problem to pull back up which isn’t even an issue, unless I guess,a person is that darn (“LAZY”)!!!!! The lessor the bars the more room for the screen as well.So far every thing is GREAT!!! Oh Ya … With your over 600,000+ new Firefox people, CONGRATULATIONS, would of liked to have been at that party… lol Thanks dean
I can’t believe this isn’t in yet: being about to hit CTRL-TAB, release, then hit CTRL-TAB to go back to tab you just came from. :( I really REALLY wish this was in there for fast, easy switching between two particular tabs when you have 50 open.
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Well done…I keep looking forward for each improvement.
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“Bug 404109 – move the Home button to the Bookmarks toolbar, and reset toolbars for Firefox 3″.
So far, the users expectation:
- of “Home” button on the main toolbar – NOT THERE!
- of “Home” button in customize palette – NOT THERE!
- of Firefox design to work for the users – NOT THERE!
It is very concerning to read comment like this by Alex Faaborg (the Firefox User Experience Designer) in Firefox Bug 417152 “I agree that not
all users are going to quickly adapt to this relocation, but if it really
bothers them they do have access to a customization palette.â€
Aren’t we suppose to design Firefox to work for the users and NOT forcing the users to work for Firefox.
If this wasn’t enough, theme developers now also have to suffer because Bug 404109 make changes to the toolbar id(s)… FF2 themes won’t be compatible with FF3 themes.
Seems the plast fix for the location bar isn’t working in this release…. for the first time in years, I’m looking for a new browser. I wonder if opera is any good?
:(
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Top marks to the Firefox team. This is a very nice UI refresh on the whole (apart from the huge number of under-the-hood tweaks you guys would have been at). While Opera is nice as a standalone broswer (IMO), FF with it support for addons and myriad other features beats everything else when on the whole.
If only the Tab mix Plus people would officially update their add-on to support the newer FF3 beta, life could not be sweeter :D
firefox3 beta updated version is truly amazing its nothing i have used before i am not a computer geek even i am finding it usefull welldone cant praise enough, 15 out of 10.
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I was lookin forward to the new UI but honestly is that the best they could do for XP? The green back and forward buttons look terrible and out of place. Hopefully theres more to come when they get some feedback
Ok, but where are the things you are speaking of ?
In which menu, or which keystroke?
I can’t find them…
Very nice review. Awesome new features.
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Very good job!!!
Congratulation for so nice full of appeal Firefox 3 Beta 3. I am glad to see and read about it.
I liked your review a lot. What I failed to glean from it, however, is how one uses web services for protocols. There’s no add functionality in the Applications section of the Preferences dialog (on a Mac, at least), and no settings anywhere I could see to link web servicesprotocols. Perhaps there’s an altogether more obtuse way to do it on macs?
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You want ugly? Have you seen the b3 release on Vista? It tries to use native colours which ends up causing a blue/lilac blur across the top of my screen!
A brilliant review though – I’m very pleased at having somebody else agreeing with my vews.
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How do you turn off the new autocomplete features? I don’t want any autocomplete on my firefox, though I admit this is the most refreshing idea I’ve seen yet. Thanks in advance!
it is fantastic as usual! Congratulations
Big Green Back Button ROCKS!
bookmark star, red rounded button SUCK! Please bring old look back! And leave the Big Green Button.
Ability to change page’s size is stunning.
BEG YOU to speed up the browser!!
BEG YOU to find a better way to manage the memory!
I belive in FireFox. Just speed him up and keep him simple.
Thank you guys,
good browser
There are options to reduce the size of the location bar autocomplete menu and make it look similar to Firefox 2′s, here: http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/02/fix-firefox-3s-location-bar/.
V3 beta 3 for mac looks like safari – I HATE the way safari looks.I miss the old UI (sniff). I wish the mac version had the back/forward buttons that I see the pc version has.
printing does not work, yet you spend time on different skins?!
I don’t care whose fault it is, and yes I’ve read the arguments blaming foomatic-rip. It doesn’t matter. If printing doesn’t work, firefox is useless.
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Works great.. I love Firefox.
I don’t know why visual refresh isn’t warmly received, it’s better than any other browsers.
Sir I’ve got three questions-
Why is the home button in bookmarks toolbar, there must be some explanation why the developers put it there..
How do we use the Offline web apps support. Google Reader can be used offline. I till now used the Google gears, now i want to use Firefox’s Offline web apps support but i don’t know how to use it..
what is the concept of tags?
Good Day Percy,
Superb review!!……
Thank You Very Much,
Roberta
Where is the possebility hidden to override the blocking of “unsafe” add-on.
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first of all i would like to congratulate mozilla family for relasing beta version of firefox. i really love mozilla firefox. the fun part of it is that u can customize according to ur own need.Browsing with firefox is much faster then other explorers.when i saw ur new product,mozilla firefox version 3 beta,i downloaded it in no time and without giving a second thought. i know that u guy must have really worked hard to ease our browsing tension.may god bless all of u and good luck for future proposals.
mozilla rules!
Firefox is my favorite search browser.
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I’ve always been a fan of firefox and have been using it for years now. I cant wait for the final version to be released
I just got Beta 3, and it has deleted ALL my bookmarks from the Beta 2. I had to use a backup, which was from 4months ago, before I got Beta1. I have lot over50 bookmarks, which I cannot get back!
I have gone through all the backups, and cannot find my current one. Will you please sort this problem out, because I am beyond annoyed, and beyond desperately need those pages back!!!
Great review, nearly as good as the program.
As a long term fan-I like it, it’s quick – seems reliable and I look forward to more testing and poking about!
Thanks, although I really liked Firefox 2!!
You see it’s all about the familiar!
My BACK-button is fading at the top, but is clean green and visible at the bottom. Why is it so? It doesn’t look good.
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7967/mftilbakeknappsw9.jpg
It’s great! I hope the problem with the downloading of torrent files (when it asks again and again what to do with torrent files, but it’s associated with the default torrent client) will be finally fixed in the next version!
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Great ! But please take back Home button to main bar…. my daugther got crazy all day long due to that ;-)
Great review will help inexperienced users like myself to get more out of Firefox, Thanks
One key feature seems to be still missing: the ability to copy a page content, including format and lay-out, vs text only.
I don’t understand why a so advanced solution like Firefox 3 could not provide this, while Safari had it for a long time for instance?
I beleive that I would not be the only one to be highly interested in such a feature to be part of Firefox.
Thanks in advance.
How do I disable the auto complete feature. This is a privacy concern
There are things I like and some annoying things:
- The home button has gone. You cannot even add it back. Now not good for the older generation
- Downloads – Why delete download folder icon and clean up buttons. BRING THEM BACK.
- Bookmarks – ADD BOOKMARK HERE
- Not HTML Compliant
This code still does not work, yet it works in Opera 9.5
- Address Bar – I want an option for firefox 2 style
- STOP / REFRESH buttons, please INTEGRATE. Only Opera seems to realise this fact.
Apart from this, I like the browser. But for the sake of older generation, have some of these (if not all) of this. Thanks.
problem with login on my.excite.com
won’t go from signin to login gets false/positive saying cookies and javascript not enabled, when in fact they are
2.0.0.12 also has the same problem
http://www.myspace.com
won’t get past secure.myspace.com
The Auto complete in the address bar is annoying and there is no way to delete the links. There needs to be a way to disable it and manage the links.
Deleting history and bookmarks has no effect
Seems like Yahoo mail doesn’t work well with FF 3 Beta – anybody else notice this?
I haven’t used it much, but the first thing make me wanna back to previous version is the drop down list of address bar. Its not in order like before when i type some first characters.
I think it will be better if there is an option to select kind of sorting the drop down list of address bar, so you can keep both current style and and old style.
Why I can not open my yahoo beta from mozilla firefox..???
I’m loving this thing . . . the page downloads seem twice as fast and v.3 seems to use 150-200K less RAM than v.2.
My (home) low-band DSL feels like a cable modem now.
Geesh, if the biggest complaint of half the posters here is the relocation of the “Home” button . . . it shows how great of a job Mozilla did on everything else.
When I upgraded and saw that button was moved by an inch, I thought, “OK, no biggie, same-difference”. I feel some are just nit-picking inconsequential minutia.
“Thanks for the million $1 bills, but I won’t accept it because (IMHO) one of them is wrinkled”.
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i hate the hiding of the home button… had to freakin google for it to find it! that sucks
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YAHOO DOES NOT WORK.
What have you done to stop this working.
It still works on FF2.
Beta 3 is definitely an improvement on 2, but there are still a few improvements I’d like to see…
- Incorporate Google search into the Addressbar autocomplete
- Add a Keyword textbox on the new bookmarking box
- Add a hover tooltip to the back/forward buttons to show the URL
- A right-click option to hide obtrusive content (such as Ads)
Its the coolest browser I’ve ever seen. I is fast and smooth and not like the sucking IE 7
how do we move the home icon back to the toolbar?
cannot save in firefox 3 beta 3
i do not have the NEW BACK/FORWARD icons in a keyhole,, it is the old style…
WHY?
Cisco
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Well I’m using the beta and it’s proven a lot more reliable and streamlined than even the latest release of Fx2, and I appreciate the changes made to the URL bar. I reckon the buttons are okay, and I for one actually kind of like the fresh style of the keyhole, though I hope all of the icons are smoothed properly by the final release, or beta 4 at least.
I like the new look and ease of using Firefox but I am not really good at doing a lot of different things. I hope this will help me to get better because I am 70 years of age and I love working with my computer. Thank you
Hi Mozilla team,
I was thinking if it would be possible to make web pafe appearance more contrasting without slowing down page rendering time. i.e Text with Clear Type option, or like Opera Browser page display.
I LOVE FireFox Browsers, Huge fan since Mozilla Suite was introduced.
Best of wishes for more brilliant Codes…
I like your all softweares very much please check the viruses from downloading my computer was fully viruses i had formatted many times please give me the solution that how i secure from viruses.
I run firefox 2 so installed 3 when I saw it was available in the PC Authority magazine.
However it is incompatable with FRee Download manager which I find fantastic – so for the time being i will stick to version 2
the brand new Firefox 3 beta 3 is the best browser I’ve even seen!! so wonderful!!
i cannot save pages, with CTRL s or from the file drop down menu save page as.
i cannot drag a web page to the bookmarks drop down menu
and i cannot download files,…
there are some problems… i can do all with
Firefox 2
ideas
cisco
I like ver. 3 but I miss some of the add ons that are in ver. 2. I cannot open .pdf files in ver 3 and I am not too happy with the download app that provides an easy way to open an download or remove it. Hope the final version includes all the add ons from ver. 2 like bookmark synchronizer
Definitely need a home page button on the nav tool bar. Otherwise looks and feels great. Minor quirks, but hopefully that will be patched in the full release.
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The combined history button on the back/forward arrows is very annoying. If I wanted to search through history, I’d open the history window. If I want to go back 5 pages, I now have to click the back arrow five times, or guess which of the pages in the combined tab history is the fifth page back.
This seems to be a change that makes the browser look different from Firefox 2, but not actually function better.
John Smith, the current page is highlighted in the history menu, so you have to select the page five positions below to go back 5 pages. Sounds very similar to what it was before to me.
The new bookmarks search feature is great. One question though; Is it possible to show the page’ location inside the bookmarks directory/tree (not its internet address) when you use the search function in bookmarks? Thx
Ah another thing; right-click some entry in bookmarks, you can check its content or edit it by selecting properties.. However, this doesn’t include the tags of FF3..
I have 2 questions about the future release candidate.
1) Will older plug-ins such as Google toolbar and Logmein active-x be able to run in the new version on version 3, without an update from the manufacturer?
2) Will there be a better cookie handling feature that will give more security options like IE. Example: Disallowing third party cookies but allowing others.
Thank you.
please change download manager
The first thing I noticed is that I can’t move the back/forward buttons out of the navigation bar anymore. I liked having everything on the menu bar, saving space. Is there a way to get this functionality back?
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Hello Team Mozilla(Firefox) great work guys your new beta 3 release is very interesting and attractive haven’t fully read about the features apart from some which are visible, will be feeding you with feedback and bugs in case encountered any, keep the free software revolution going and three cheers to all of you guys from me and my Indian friends who use nothing but Mozilla. Keep the Mozilla revolution going you guys have already made history here.
warm regards
Anirudh
The new bookmark star in the address bar is excellent.
Like some people have said before me, why should Vista style mean IE7 rip-off (I also think IE7 and Media Player buttons and colors aren’t nice)? There’s the orb or ribbon (Office 2007) and they look much better.
Stop button should be definitely red and Reload button much thicker (like FF2).
All the other Icons look so unpolished and flat, they should be worked on as well.
The look is fantastic on OS X! The smooth scrolling using either the up/down arrow keys, the scroll ball on the mouse, or the trackpad is superb! I like the smaller icons in the menu bar too. And this is only what I have seen in the first 5 minutes! This could end up as my default browser, since Safari doesn’t play nice with posting to Blogger and tears up some other Web sites into crappy bits. Apple should be ashamed. But you guys should be proud!
Oh, and one more thing—the “swipe scroll” feature, like the iPhone and the iPod touch is terrific! You guys are geniuses!
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the fabolous plugin for firefox 2 Tab effect isn´t avaliable for beta 3. I´m sad
The back/forward one page buttons only bring down a list of sites and won’t activate themselves. I’m on MacOS 10.4.11. I switched to the beta version of Firefox as the 2.0 version had a bug with the recent security upgrade when scrolling. I can view eBay live auctions on 3.0, either.
Thanks
I meant to say that I can NOT view eBay live auction pages, either.
Awesome new features
To all the people asking why put Home in the bookmarks bar.
Think about what home really is. It is essentially a bookmark. It makes all the sense in the world to have it there, at least as much if not more sense then having it in the navigation toolbar.
In any case it CAN be moved, if you can’t the problem lies between the keyboard and chair.
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Just downloaded the new beta3 so early days yet, but I like it so far, seems faster loading than IE on my machine, will use for another week then send in more feedback, nice clean looking toolbars. time to explore further.
The “Bookmark This Page” pull down window seems still to have some conflicting behavior. At least the “empty first larger window pop-up” has been fixed and storage into a particular tree works at the first attempt – but it lacks the “Create new directory” feature. Also it is not so clear what the up and down arrows will do at first trial. One has to experiment to get the most efficient usage. What does “Remove Bookmark” mean, when I even have not decided what to do. Does it mean “Cancel” my attempt to store a bookmark? Might need also a text bubble for that one :)
Only now I realize that when resting a little bit longer on it, a text bubble explains the function. I think the delay should be shorter for the hasty :(, it’s only in this version I discovered that i have to hold on to it.
In the main navigation toolbar the down arrow right beside the white or red star icon does not show a text bubble at all.
Will it be possible to put “Home” and “smart bookmarks”
in Navigation tool bar?
I’m always looking for the most screen space for reading and hate losing space to tool bars.
Added Security sounds great.
Love “small icons”
Superb update, a genuine step forward not just marketing.
Much appreciated!
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in firefox 3 beta 3
if u search for any addons in (download window of firefox) the space is taken as %20 which actually changes the search type
and there will be no results for that search
eg: image likeopera
this it takes as image%20likeopera . rectify this!!
and imagelikeopera is not compatible with this new version
is there any thing else?
GREAT!!
Love It!
Being a Software Engineering Student I am lucky to use the Uni computers with Firefox as default (yay) Library Server machines have IE and only IE. :-|
Saw an accounting student with IE open in our Departmental Lab 2 days ago. I managed to hold my temper – just. You impressed?
Wow, Firefox 3 Beta 3 blows away your last 2 updates. No hicups, no stalls, no random pauses between page changes, no mystery drops/stalls/or crashes…great, thanks, JBJ
I really like the new button and it seems easier to use than the two separate arrows.
Overall the system appears to be a real winner. Everything seems faster and smoother running that in the past.
I cannot get Real Player to work and it appears it doesn’t want to accept the upgrade.
It is an excellent update and good luck to Microsoft. Now they have a new target.
This Beta version doesn’t allow for an interface with Windows Live Mail for my hotmail account. I have to use the classic version of hotmail. Slightly irritating. Ditto when accessing Live Footy, Sopcast does not upload. Please help.
its beatiful its great firefox
FF3b3 – “Places” have not enough posibilities. I wanted to import only a part (sub-map) of the I.E.-bookmarks. How ?..
Bug..: In I.E. sometime’s there are a few bookmarks without a url.(Only a name). When importing from I.E: Firefox does not import all bookmarks in this folder comming after this faulty I.E.-bookmark. !! :-(
In a Firefox-bookmark-search, you can not see in witch map (folder) the bookmark (favorite) belongs. :-(
>> I miss “zoom-buttons” << !!!
I miss a posibility to block unwanted urls…
Greetings, Piet Geldof piet_in_2007@yahoo.com
Left bookmark-window to narrow… :-(
I want to make the left-bookmark-window wider.
You can not see long name’s / many folders.
“This is 2008!”
Now we have a wide-screen with much space!
In the (older?) I.E.6, you can drag the bookmark-window much further to the midle of the screen!!!
Hi… And thanks for this great browser. It is hard to believe that such a great product is FREE! I wish I could do more, but for the time being I have installed Beta 3 in all my PCs to help test it.
So far, the interface looks fantastic! Great job guys… And thanks again! :)
great beta, great review
it looks great in ubuntu, although like most programs not made by microsoft it doesn’t really fit in with vista
is there any way of getting the original firefox 2 theme on OS X again?
GREAT review! But… you spelled “February” wrong… ;)
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thank you for Mozilla Firefox very cod i love so much Mozilla.
thanks
please change the feature that saves passwords and fills them in to have more than one account with the same site, as in 3 direct tv accounts like the feature that netscape had in there browser. this feature is very valuable for old peaple like me. thank you
ooops , correction to above you need to right click on the top toolbar in order to get the customize option. Sorry about that
I just have a minor opinion about the button when bookmarking a page. the box that pops up when I bookmark something has got the “cancel” button on the left and “Done” on the right. which is quite unusual as in most of the situation, the affirmation option would be on the left and negative on on the right… this unusual arrangement has caused by a little bit trouble on successfully bookmarking a page with just one go.
The Location Bar us horrible, i keep a tight list of sites i go to, what used to be just click on the down arrow go to one of 8 sites, is now a complete mess with this new system.
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this new firefox is like butta! the fastest browser on the block. As soon as I click it on a college pc in class, it opens in less than half a second! now when u want internetz, you get internetz!
My opinion is that Firefox 3 is very very very UGLY
Please do something to the Back and Forward buttons!
Put the Home button back to its own place, PLEASE!
After i updated firefox 3 beta 4, my old bookmarks are gone.
is there anyway to get my bookmark back? i did not have any backup in my system.
Thanks.
“The Home button has been moved to the Bookmarks toolbar by default (but can be easily moved back)”
Oh ya. How? If it ain’t draggin’ and dropping it ain’t that easy.
For some reason, I can’t open these two Yahoo sports pages. Firefox will instatntly stop responding and close. I’m running Vista Home Premium, and the latest version of FF3. When I restore the session, I have to close the Yahoo sports tab before it loads or else it will stop responding again.
Should I report this to Mozilla?
The sites which caused this problem. (there were more, but I didn’t think of copying the url until later).
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-japanbigbie031908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-swimmerprotest&prov=ap&type=lgns
The 4th version crashes all the time on my XP.
Why don’t any of the greasemonkey scripts or the flickr helps work anymore?
By the way, this version looks great and works fast. Thanks for those positive changes!
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Ho can i get rid if “confirm setting cookie”?
Hi!,will you please tell me how to get rid of “confirm setting cookie ? thanks Armand.
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Its excellent. Really like it.
Who the hell uses the home button anyway? I’m online 18hrs a day and I haven’t touched the home button in years. Nitpicking geeks need to STFU.
it all depends what you homepage is,
as mine is google i rarely use it (though i am a heavy user of the bookmarks toolbar and the awesome bar)
anything new link or software wat better than firefox3 beta ?
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will the firefox 2.x versions still be maintained?
A profiled browsing for different users will be a very useful feature to see in FireFox.
Thanks for the nice in depth review. But I can’t stand the new location/search bar at all. =[
TO ME IM USING IT RIGHT NOW
AND IT ISNT SMOOTH AT ALL AND IT FREEZES
UP A LIL WHEN I CLICK THE PUSH BACK BUTTON
NOT A SMOOTH WEB BROWSER
FIREFOX 2 IS WAY BETTER!!!!!!!!
I love Firefox, I have only been a user for a little over a month but already I am liking it.
The URL history drop down is messed up. What a pain in the @#$. How much is it to ask that when you check the URL history drop down, it actually shows the history of the websites you’ve entered? I have been trying to figure out how to turn off the goofy “well here is what we think you need to see” history bar. Went to Firefox’s broken help page on the subject and performed their procedure. Result? Now there is no history of any kind in the drop down. I wish I hadn’t upgraded. I just wanted Firefox 2 to stop crashing all the time. How nice would that be? Getting software that actually works. This must be one of the few industries where the norm is that you constantly buy hardware and software and nobody ever has to actually sell something that fully functions without breaking when you buy it. Good think Boeing doesn’t build airplanes like that.
Much better that Firefox I have on WIN2000, for I could never find the ‘back’ button.
Thanks.
A MI ME ESTA DANDO PROBLEMAS EL PROGRAMA MOZILLA INICIO CON FIREFOX Y ME APARECE UN MENSAJE QUE DEBE APAGARSE Y ES BIEN TARDADO PARA ABRIR EN LA PAGINA DE INICIO Y ME OBLIGA A USAR INTERNET EXPLORER DE VERDAD NO SE QUE HACER .
GRACIAS ANTICIPADAS POR SU ATENCION
ATTE. JULIO MILLA
Absolutely agree. My address bar is forced to have feeds and bookmarks which I never use. But where is the go to button? where is the option to choose?
new version of firefox but … you keep the VERY POOR support for proxy´s, authentication is not implemented yet, com´on, lets make the right thing, PLEEEEEEAAASE …..
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“Firefox 3.0 is a great browser and a huge improvement over previous versions.”
—
What improvement?
Tonns of problems: just see here:
http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-searchindex.php?locale=en-US&words=bug+report&sa=
for starters.
Or try to download partial database using phpMyAdmin, when whole database is bigger than 2 MB.
It downloads unusable garbage and it is always 2.32MB
Do not say that problem is on phpNyAdmin side, because FF2 has no problems with it … and all other browsers do not have any problems (tested with Safari, Opera, IE, Chrome, Netscape)
IE3 is a big flop – and this opinion comes from a big fan of this browser.
I just tried to install ff3 for the second time, hoping that they fixed that problem, but they did not.
On top of above it refused to import html file with bookmarks (exported by previous FF2 version – but thats minor problem, I got around it)
I guess that all positive reviews are done like this:
“Ohhh its neeew Firefox … so it must be gooood!”
Unfortunately this one is not!!
What a fantastic and thorough review.
The best that I’ve seen yet for Firefox 3.
I’m sure that it took quite a bit of time to put together.
This is certainly going to be the best Firefox upgrade yet.